Setting up RAID on X58 Pro-e MB

Current setup as far as HDD's go:
SATA1: WD Raptor - contains OS: Win7 64
SATA2: WD Raptor - used as a scratch disk for photo editing
SATA3: WD 500GB - used for storing data
SATA4: DVD ROM
SATA5: DVD ROM
SATA6: empty
SATA7: empty
Current drives and connections are all SATA II.
I picked up 3 WD 1TB drives (SATA III) to be used in RAID 5 configuration, which gives me 1 more drive than I have SATA connections. If I can implement the RAID the 500GB drive will not be needed, which would bring me back down to 7 drives all together.
I've read most of the threads on this section that pertain to RAID, so I've picked up a few things here and there. I've also downloaded the manual and read Appendix C. Within Appendix they gives instruction for "if you are installing the OS follow thses directions". The 'if' appears to indicate the is another option, but I have found no directions for cases where the OS is already installed, which leads to question #1: Can the on-board RAID be setup without re-installing Windows 7? I would like to avoid re-installing if possible.
I'va also looked into an add-on card for RAID, which I could get in the SATA III flavor matching the addition drives that will be used for the RAID. I'm under the assumption the add-on card could be installed without re-installing the OS. The downside that I've read is the add-on card slows down the boot sequence in addition to spending more money. How is the boot sequence for the on-board RAID for this MB?
If I choose to use the on-board RAID how should the drives be configured (what SATA connection)? Can the OS drive be part of the RAID controller (SATA1-6) even thou it's not a RAID drive? Can the DVD ROM's be in the RAID controller. Am I better off getting an add-on card for internal SATA connections (non RAID card) for misc drives? Does the OS drive and atleast one DVD ROM need to be somewhere on SATA1-7 for booting purposes? I'm just not sure how the drives should be setup.
I just would like to see what my options are before going any farther and spending more money or time.
Thanks,
Dennis

This should do the trick (assuming that all of your memory modules are good)
Make sure you have the latest BIOS revision for your motherboard - latest version is 8.F released on 3/19/2011. If you have an older version, flash you BIOS to the latest version.
Now - enter your BIOS setup and navigate to the Cell Menu and open it up
Select Advance DRAM Configuration and make the following changes;
1N/2N Memory Timing - Change from Auto to 2N
Cas Latency (CL) - 8
tRCD - 8
tRP - 8
tRAS - 24
Now select the Advanced Memory Setting and change from Auto to Manual, this will open up all of the secondary memory timings - don't touch anything in here other than tRFC setting
tRFC - 103 for now, it can be tightened later. This setting doesn't affect performance too much, but can have a huge impact on stability and detection of all your memory
And a few voltage tweaks;
Manually set QPI Voltage to 1.25v
Manually set DRAM Voltage to 1.65v
Save all your changes (F10) escape and reboot. See if that does the trick.
Regards,
Wev

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Am I on the right track or do you think the board has problems as well?
You followed the right process in terms of testing the memory and I supect one of those modules is the culprit.
The mem controller of that CPU natively supports 1066 and I would suggest that when you do get the new memory, that you manually set it to run at 1066. Some mem controllers will accommodate 1333, while others may want increased voltage to do that.

MSI X58 Pro - I'm having trouble setting up my first Raid 0 Array

Hey guys! I have an i7 920, X58 Pro, 3x2GB DDR3, Radeon 5850, 640GB WD Black (Windows 7 64 bit + applications) and 1TB Samsung F3 (backup) system and I'm having trouble setting up a raid 0 array. I recently decided to purchase two additional 1TB Samsung F3 harddrives in order to create a raid 0 array, while still keeping my original two harddrives separate. I installed the new harddrives today, installed the JMicron drivers that were on the drivers disk that came with my motherboard, went into the bios, and changed it from IDE to RAID. I then went into the raid bios, selected the two new harddrives and selected raid 0, saved everything and tried to load Windows and Windows refuses to boot up. I got an option to try fixing Windows but that didn't end up fixing anything. Finally, I was forced to go back into the bios and switch it from RAID back to IDE just to get Windows to boot up again. Does anyone know what I need to do in order to get this raid 0 to work? Thanks a lot in advance for your help!

Perhaps create a software RAID? You can do it in Windows through Control Panel --> Administrative Tools --> Computer Management --> Disk Management.
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Help msi x58 pro e raid 0 my hardisk not detected

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Did you use the instructions in the manual to set up the Raid?

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Hello, Hatter. Thanks so much for the information. I went with the information from the Macworld article (I believe) "RAIDing the Mac Pro" and according to it this setup was supposedly a great idea. But, yes, it's not working out so perhaps not in this case.
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p.s.: I'm guessing I'll need to do a fresh start and clone my external drive all over again, correct?

X58 Pro and Raid 0, I would like some help if possible.

Hi,
I'm currently waiting on my SSD's that I want to use in a raid 0 configuration, but I'm a complete newbie when it comes to running raid on these things.
Currently I have HDD's and DVD on SATA contact 1, 2 and 3.
My BIOS version is 7.3.
I'm planning on installing Windows 7 64-bit on the Raid 0 configuration.
Can someone give me a step by step instruction on how to setup a Raid 0 with 2x SSD?
I would be very thankful for any help.

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Registry tweak for what?
Error message when you start a Windows 7 or Windows Vista-based computer after you change the SATA mode of the boot drive: "STOP 0x0000007B INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE"
This >> registry tweak << is required if you install Windows without setting the RAID mode to ACHI first as follows:
This issue occurs if the disk driver (MSACHI) in Windows 7 and Windows Vista is disabled. This driver must be enabled before you change the SATA/RAID mode of the boot drive.To resolve this issue, enable the AHCI driver in the registry before you change the SATA mode of the boot drive. To do this, follow these steps:
Start REGEDIT.
Locate and then click one of the following registry subkeys:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Msahci
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\IastorV
In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor.
Reboot and load the BIOS.
Change the RAID value to ACHI.
Finally, reboot.
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I got a reply from MSI support to use RAID option in BIOS and Windows 7 installed without any problems.
Sorry I went off on a tangent, I failed to remember that you are installing this for RAID, if you were using the SSD's in non-RAID mode, you'd use ACHI.

Building new system, MSI X58 Pro-E, i7 920, GTX 295, 6gb, Thermalright e-120

Hello, I was hoping for some advice on this rig, to overclock or not, etc; Im a bug gamer, so its really about gaming to the max 1st,
Heres the brand new parts;
MSI X58 Pro-E (In the box, just arrived, do not know bios yet)
i7 920
Patriot Extreme Viper PVT36G1600ELK 6GB DDR3 9-9-9-24
eVGA GTX295 1792mb CO-OP edition
Thermalright extreme e-120 cpu cooler (Jesus that thing is huge)
Im going to re-use this stuff:
2x500gb seagate HDD sata raid 0 for performance
Antec 900 case Lots of fans...nice
DVD RW
Corsair TX750W Says 60A on a single +12v rail (I think its good, only @ a year or so old)
SB X-FI Fatality gamer sound card
So, basically should I look to OC this setup a bit? maybe to like 3 GHz or so? If so, whats the "safest" method to OC? I have an excellent cpu cooler and a case that has a ton of fans in it so hopefully I should be good for cooling.
Do I just OC the CPU? Will the memory run at its top speeds with this chip? or do I need to do something for the memory also, I recally for some reason on my current PC with a 780i SLI evga mobo I had to set the ram timins manually, they were never picked up properly on "auto", will I have that also on the MSI board?
I hope Ive provided enough information to get started.
Thank you for any help!
Oh, I plan to build this baby the following weekend as I am working the next 2 weeks straight...meh

Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
So, basically should I look to OC this setup a bit? maybe to like 3 GHz or so?
Yes, why not?
Do not be aiming for 3 GHz, you can run that on stock voltage. 4 GHz is more within the grasp of the TRUE 120.
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
If so, whats the "safest" method to OC? I have an excellent cpu cooler and a case that has a ton of fans in it so hopefully I should be good for cooling.
There's only one way to overclock - overclock... There is no safe way of doing it...
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
Do I just OC the CPU? Will the memory run at its top speeds with this chip? or do I need to do something for the memory also,
The only way you can overclock a CPU without overclocking anything else is with an extreme edition CPU. (The i7 965, for example.) It's overclocked by raising the CPU multiplier, not the baseclock frequency.
With regular CPUs, you overclock the baseclock, which overclocks the CPU core, CPU uncore, memory, and QPI frequency.
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
I recally for some reason on my current PC with a 780i SLI evga mobo I had to set the ram timins manually, they were never picked up properly on "auto", will I have that also on the MSI board?
Extremely doubtful.
I hope I've answered your questions. I can be more thorough if you wish to know more. Of course, Google can tell you more than I ever could.

MSI x58 ProE and Corsair 12GB (3x4GB) RAM Issues

Greetings!
New poster here with a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to anywhere. I've looked over the forums but have had no luck figuring it out. My goal is to identify the culprit and replace the appropriate parts.
I built this computer in 2009 with the intention of doing OpenCL/CUDA computing and handle all my multimedia. At the time, 6GB DDR3 RAM (3x2GB) was about all I could afford. The machine works great, but lately, attempting to do some video and image processing has been hitting limits on my available RAM. I also want to run a linux VM or two. I thought I would order the Corsair 3x4GB DDR3 kit from NewEgg and not have any problems upgrading. I didn't have any plans of running the 6 and 12 GB sets simultaneously because I thought there would be some sort of memory density/timing issues.
New RAM desired: Corsair Dominator with DHX Pro Connector and Airflow II Fan - DDR3 Memory Kit (CMP12GX3M3A1600C9)
Old RAM in system: Corsair Dominator with DHX Pro Connector - 6GB Triple Channel (CMP6GX3M3A1600C8)
Request 1: Can I mix the 6 and 12 GB sets (for a total of 18GB) if I keep the density the same across each set of slots? There are 3 black (primary) and 3 blue (secondary). I was thinking of putting the 12GB in black, and 6GB in Blue.
I placed the order, received it, and went to install it yesterday. Took the existing 6GB out and dropped the 12GB in, saw that BIOS recogized it with the right timings, and proceeded to boot Windows up. Blue-screen at the very first Windows logo. I thought "well that stinks, let's check to see if the RAM is defective through MemTest." Downloaded an ISO of 4.2, fired it up, and it hung right away. Hung in the "Address Test, Own Address" test. Big fat A note: BIOS and MemTest both recognized the full capacity of the sticks.
My next thought was "Well, one of them might be bad, let's try to find out which one." I individually put each one in the first slot on the board, ran MemTest, and showed 0 problems on any tests with each of them.
Summary thus far: Individually, each 4GB stick works perfectly. In combination, they fail. The full 3x2GB set works perfectly.
My next theory was that my board might be bad (even though the 3x2GB set in the same slots has no issues). Knowing that the first slot was good with every bit of memory I put in there, I left a 4GB stick in slot 1, and dropped a 4GB stick in slot 2. MemTest hung again. Thinking it might have been that one stick, I put the other one in there, and it hung also. So, slot 2 looks suspect. Move the sticks to 1&3, and they look fine, but that still leaves me missing 4GB of RAM.
I've followed advice and re-seated the CPU, looked for bent pins (none found), and tried manually setting the timings to the 9-9-9-24 that is printed on the sticks. No luck with any of that.
Request 2: So, my question to you is what am I missing? I feel like the board is the problem, due to the slot 2 problem with the 4GB sticks. However, my 2GB sticks don't have any problems at all in the same slots. Could the 4GB sticks require a little more power that my board might not be pushing out (the board is labeled at 1.5V, the sticks are labeled 9-9-9-24, 1.65V)? Would a bent pin be causing this that my eyes just cannot see? I read somewhere that a guy had a pin that was 0.25mm off that was causing his problems.
Or should I be looking at the memory? The 3x2GB set works fine, but the 3x4GB does not.
I'm not sure what my next step should be other than replace the RAM first, motherboard second. The RAM I just got, so I could RMA it if I knew exactly what the problem was. The motherboard is approaching 3 years old and presumably is out of warranty. I wouldn't mind replacing it, but I don't want to spend money right now if I don't have to.
I don't have a second machine to test on, although I'm trying to locate one (most of my friends don't build custom PCs). I have also tried putting the 6GB in the black slots and 12GB in the blue, but the machine doesn't work with that configuration either.
Request 3: Could someone explain how I could aim for 1066MHz on my RAM? I read that on the X58 Pro-E that this resolves most problems with random bluescreens. When I try to do this, I get lost in the numbers/options within the BIOS.
Anything else I might be missing? I'm out of ideas
Thank you all so much for the help!

Hi and welcome,
You have 2 "bottlenecks": the processor and the mainboard.
http://ark.intel.com/products/37147/Intel-Core-i7-920-Processor-8M-Cache-2_66-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI
Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) : 24 GB
Memory Types : DDR3-800/1066
Memory Channels : 3
Max Memory Bandwidth : 25.6 GB/s
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X58-Pro-E.html#/?div=Detail
• Supports six unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 800/1066/1333*/1600* (OC) DRAM, 24GB Max
As you can see, above 1066MHz you need to overclock both the processor and the mainboard.
I think for your config the best shot is 3 x 4GB DDR3-1333 (9-9-9-24 at 1.55-1.60V)

Where can I get an original x58 Pro-E IOH chipset heatsink assy?

Recently built an i7 gaming rig and like everyone else had high nb temps which I'm not very keen on.
I had a Thermalright HR-05 from another build (took it out of my old system and replaced it with the original HS and sold that PC leaving me with it) that I'll use on the nb, but covering the sb will be difficult since I'm running 2 4870 cards in the pci-e slots, covering the sb and not being able to move the cards to free space above it. I don't really want to get something too fancy for the sb (the sli version of the nb cooler) as it doesn't seem to get hot.
I was thinking along the lines of using the HR-05 for the nb, cutting up the heat-pipe of the original chip-set HS and just using it on the sb as temps and clearance will be fine. Problem of course is if ever need to rma the board, I'm screwed. I've read all the posts about issues with the hot IOH temps and solutions, and this is the way I'll think I'll go.
Currently my temps are up around 90 on load, and that's in winter! It's around 10 C in my room right now and when summer comes around with 30 C that's gonna shoot up!
Long story short, does anybody know where I can get an original X58 Pro-E IOH heatsink assy that I can keep safe in case I need it (touch wood)

I have thought about that, saw it under some suggestions to fix high temps. But they have that shoved toward the NB. My HR-05 will take care of the NB (plus some serious OC in sumemr which i want to do) I just need a HS for the southbridge , and it seems that the only HS that has enough clearance and fits into the MB with long cards in xfire or sli is the original SB HS, which leaves me wanting to cut the orginal HS up to reuse on the SB and finding another complete HS just in case.

X58 pro-e trying to understand a few things please help me out.

first of all hi
im trying to overclock my cpu to a nice place and in my mind its 4ghz and in my mind its like use 22X200=4ghz=happy me
now realty is when i do that and leave every thing on auto the MB puts too much volts on the V.core like 1.4+ and thats bad for me i do have a good cooler thermaltake frio 220w
so i tried lowering Blck and stuff and i googled stuff and ended up with a good 21X175 with 0 on the V.core only to download a program named cpu-tweaker and nehalemcalc so bare with me the question is coming so i setup the nehalemcalc to 225X21 qpi multi X18 Uncore multi X12 mem multi X6
only to get a warning saying (instability may occur when QPI clock is greater than 4000MHz) and it got me wondering how much did i set my Multi`s so i went and checked but i did not find them in the cell menu so i opened the cop-twaeker to look some stuff up and i found
21X175=good i put that there
7x7x7x19=ram timing good too i put them my self
Uncore X16= bad read under
QPI X18= good after i read in 4.8 mode its set to X18
RAM X3 = i guess its good i put it there too
so i opened up the nehalemcalc 1.3 and used these numbers i found only to read some thing i did not find in cell menu mem multi witch was 6 as minimal
number in the program so whats wrong here how come its giving me deferent numbers in the 2 programs and in cpu-z its showing FSB:Dram 2:6
so where do i find adjust that ratio found in the cpu-z or the uncore multi for that matter !
sorry i know its crazy but i really think thats why i cant go pass the 4Ghz dream BTW i need to add Volts to the cpu as from 3.8 :( so it just might help
out to know every thing to know about this motherboard
my system specc`s are :
core i7 920 d0
X58 pro-e
gtx260
1TBx2 wd
2x3 transcend jetram 1333
thremaltake frio
custom cooler for the IOH(cheap fan on the heatsink :P )

Quote from: HU16E on 10-March-11, 08:41:31
Everything should be fine as long as the recommended max. voltages aren't exceeded. Lots of trial & error involved, within safe limits of course.
Added:I hope that 4.00 is the CPU speed & not the volts applied.
stop loling @ me come please i have a dead time on the rams if i dont like them i can return them
so it is the cpu speed the 4k yes so pleaseeeeeee tell me what kind of volts i should use with this setup lets say 3.8ghz and i know every cpu has its own vlots and all but i need like a refrance that i can work on lets say 3.8ghz needs 1.2v on the v,core 1.5v on ram 1.2 on qpi and so on .. so for 4ghz i need 1.3v,ram1.5,qpi...... some thing easy like that and if it works i will for you sir

X58 Pro a Lemon? IOH cooling insufficient.

Is the X58 Pro motherboard a Lemon? The x58 cooling solution on the board is inadequate by far. Very soon, MSI will introduce a replacement board called the X58 Pro-E which has a different heat sync on the Dr. MOS and X58 chipset. They will no doubt ignore all of us with the Lemon. Which is totally unacceptable and enough to make me not want buy any MSI products ever in the future!
The only solution to cooling your IOH on the X58 Pro is to replace the useless MSI heat sync or run a small fast fan on to them.
Here are the possibilities;
1) with stock cooler IOH is 72C at idle
2) Running a 40mm 4000RPM fan ($12.00) directly onto the chips set from above the chipset, the IOH drops to 55C.
3) Replacing the sock solution with 2 Thermalright HR-05-IFX (23.00 each) the IOH drops to 38C*
*note: In my Antec Sonata case the HR-05-IFX are directly in the path of the 120mm fan exhaust that is mounted to the hard drive cage. This fan, draws air through the bottom of the case, over the hard drives and out over the motherboard. This is a Noctuna 120M fan that is running at 900 RMP (Ultra Quiet Mode). This fan blows directly onto the HR-05-IFX and helps dissipate the heat build up on the fins of the HR-05-IFX. With this fan turned off, the IOH temp starts out at 39C but quickly climbs into the 45C range with heavy use.
Using the 3rd solution, I can go up to a 190 MHz base CPU clock rate which makes the 2.6GHz i970 a 3.8Ghz CPU. The max I can go with memory is 1500MHz using OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) rated at 1600 (OCZ3G1600LV6GK). Anything above that the board is not stable. At a base clock of 210 MHz, the board hangs-up in boot. It goes through the BIOS POS T and the screen says "WAIT..." and nothing happens.
I'm using BIOS 7.3. see https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=126768.0
by the way, be careful when you remove the stock IOH cooler. Mine was pretty much stuck to the board. I had to yank it off with a set of pliers. Upon taking it off, part of the problem was clearly apparent. There was enough silicon grease (or should I say hardened cement) to drown an elephant. The grease must be the cheapest kind you can find because it had caked up into a thick layer of plastic and I had to scrape off heavy scabs. I wish I had taken a picture.
Once you do this upgrade, all of us should send the $50 bill to MSI. They should give all of us MSI X58 Pro uses a $50 rebate for selling us a Lemon.

So far, not any X58 Pro boards have burned up an X58 (IOH) that I've read about. 72c is well below the 100c limit, so those that choose not to redo the heatsinks need not panic as long as sustained full loads are below 100c.
Out of the 3 X58 Pros I've helped build, no 'Lemons' noted among them. Just started build #4. I would say your 3.8 on the CPU & 1500 on the mem. is pretty decent. The CPU only natively supports 800/1066 memory, so what's the complaint? 1333 & 1600 are 'OC' speeds. Your mem. sticks may be rated 1600, but doubt they are chipped more than 1333.
What was your specific system issue that required a bios update?
Is the X58 Pro-E a 'replacement' board as you call it, or a new introduction board to the line-up? Have you been ignored so far over your 'self proclaimed' lemon?

Quick Short Test & Review of X58 PRO-E

Here is an upgrade version to the entry level X58PRO motherboard that MSI has to offer before. Model name is “X58PRO-E” and this was introduced to solve the High IOH Temp that other users encountered before with the X58 Pro. The chipset & VRM heatsinks are now screwed on the board thus making a good contact for better & fast heat dissipation. Don’t get worried also for the price because this would be still around 10k PHP and if paired with a good i7 920 processor (priced around 13-14k PHP) you will own a system which would be great for video editing, graphics processing & gaming as well (SLI or Crossfire can be done on this motherboard ^^ ). On the other hand, if you are an overclocker like me. It is very easy for the board to overclock the i7 920 to 4ghz at a minimal voltage increase and few bios tweaking.
So here is a shot of the box and its contents
•Four Sata Cables
•One IDE Cable
•Two Molex to SATA power Adapters
•1x Cross Fire Bridge
•Front Panel header labels
•Driver & Extras CD
•User manuals & Backplate
Features
•Support for Core i7 LGA1366 CPUs at 4.8-6.4GT/s QPI
•Intel X58 northbridge and ICH10R southbridge
•Six 1.5V DDR3 DIMM slots supporting up to 24GB of memory
•One Realtek RTL8111C Gigabit Ethernet controllers
•Three PCI-Express 2.0 x16 slots (x16/x16/x4)
•Two PCI-EXpress x1 slots
•Two PCI slots
•Seven SATA II ports - six from Intel ICH10R (supporting Intel Matrix RAID 0, 1, 10, 5 and JBOD), one from JMicron JMB363
•One IDE port supporting one device from JMicron JMB363
•One eSATA port from JMicron JMB363
•Ten USB 2.0 ports - six on rear I/O, four via pin-outs
•JMicron JMB381 IEEE1394a Firewire supporting two ports - one via pin-out, one on the rear I/O
•Realtek ALC888S 7.1 Channel High-Definition audio codec
Layout & I/O Ports
Black heatsink screw design. Three well placed PCIE (x16/x16/x4) slots which won’t give any users a problem installing three dual-slot video cards. You will also find below the Easy OC Switch sticker are the Easy Power/Reset/ Clear Cmos Buttons & beside them is the OC Switch.
On the rear you will find 6 USB Ports, Firewire port, E-SATA, SPDIF Out , PS2 for KB & Mouse, Gigabit LAN & lastly 7.1 audio ports.
BIOS
I only took pictures of the Cell Menu because this is the most important part of the bios especially in overclocking. This is where you will tweak your system.
CPU Specifications
Memory Specifications
More Memory Options for Tweaking
Voltages
This is where you can save all your overclock or tweak settings
Test Setup
•Intel Core i7 920 C0
•G Skill Trident 2000 CAS9 1.65V
•MSI 4770
•FSP 800 watts PSU
•Seagate 500GB SATA
•Windows Vista Ultimate 64BIT SP2
Below are quick short tests on how good the board can handle high memory clock speeds even though in the manual it only says there that the highest OC for the memory speed is up to 1600mhz only for the motherboard.
G Skil lTridents 1600 6-7-6-18 TRFC60 1.58V
G Skill Tridents 1866 7-8-7-20 TRFC65 1.60V
G Skill Tridents 2000 8-9-8-20 TRFC80 1.65V
Tridents 2100 9-9-9-24 TRFC88 1.72V
I was able to get a good bclock 222 also with the i7 920 C0 I have. I guess if I used a D0 stepping instead , I can push the bclock higher.
Final Thoughts & Conclusion
I was very impressed on the capabilities of this entry level X58 motherboard can do. A few tweaks on the cell menu I was able to get high memory clocks and all were stable. You would also notice on one of my shots running the memory @ 2100mhz, my uncore ratio turned to a high of 4200mhz speed. All of these were done all on air.
Pros :
- Cheap Entry level X58 Board
- Easy to overclock
- Support SLI and Crossfire
- No issue on Bigger aftermarket CPU cooler
- 90 degrees placement of SATA & IDE ports
Cons :
- No SLI Bridge included in the Box

Quote from: Dankirk2 on 03-August-09, 12:04:05
I wish mine were that low... I just built a machine with the X58 Pro-E, all stock, no overclock. Mine idled at around 80c. I removed the heatsinks, scraped off the pink gummy stuff they used, put on new thermal paste, and reattached using two red fiber washers at each screw to increase the heatsink pressure on the chips. It now idles at around 66c. It is much better, but still not near the 50c that you're seeing. I wonder why? My case is an Antec Nine Hundred Two, with great airflow. I also moved my video card down a slot so the cips weren't covered.
Can someone else using the X58Pro-E board post their IOH temps as I want to change out my X58 Pro board before summer arrives.
I am not prepared to attempt to remove the heat sink and if other people are still getting 80c IOH temps, which is what I am getting and it is winter here at the moment, then it will be a waste of time me paying to have my board replaced.

To RAID or not to RAID: 4Tb Mac Pro Server

Hi,
Hope someone can steer in the right direction.
I've got a Mac Pro Server. It has 4 x 1Tb HDs and a 6TB Drobo S for backup. It has a RAID card.
My query is, as I need at least 2Tb space instantly to store Final Cut Pro files, etc. Won't be using the server to actually edit anything, or any other tasks.
a) Do I set up RAID and get only approx. 2TB of usable space - therefore filling it up straightaway
b) Leave it as 4 separate 1Tb harddrives (to get most space)and let the Drobo do its BeyondRAID thing? (At the moment the data is all a Mac and on single Firewire external drives).
c) If I go RAID (it's brand new so I'm at the setup stage). Which is the best option for me?
d) If I do RAID, should I partition 100gb on drive 1, for OSX and programs, etc and then RAID the rest? I guess that means I have to reinstall the whole system? Or can I 'live' partition on a Mac these days?
The Mac Server is a fairly temp solution as we're getting a proper SANs this year, but at present the data lives on a Mac tower (with MyStudio backup drive) and also on a few Firewire drives.
HELP!
Many thanks.

1. With only 4 drives, raid 5 should be fine. That gives 3TB (1TB for redundancy).
2. A backup is more important than raid.
3. The raid setup for the san can be tricky. Depending on the size, you may not want raid 5, but 50, or 6. Consider: A 16TB raid 5 array will need to read all bits CORRECTLY to rebuild a failed raid 5 array. What is the bit error rate of modern disks? Approximately 1 bit for 16TB-20TB of data. So a large raid 5 san may fail to rebuild. Got a backup? This is why they created raid 6.
4. I would setup an extra partition, maybe 100GB, on the raid array. Why? I find it handy, if you need to check the disks, you can reboot from that 100GB partition and check the big partition. Also, you can have 2 different versions of the os on the raid array. You will find this useful, when a update comes out that breaks some things, you can run off the older os and you don't have to live with the broken functionality.

Stalled at 3.95ghz w/ X58 Pro

Hey Guys,
I have a X58 Pro motherboard that's currently clocked at 3.95ghz. I'm real happy with the performance so far, compared to my GA-EX58-UD3R, but I'd like to push it a little farther. As the heading states, I'm stalled at 3.95ghz. If someone out there has a X58 Pro or knowledge of the BIOS settings, maybe you could help me push this beast to 4ghz. I'm running the following settings:
Core Freq 3.95ghz
DRAM Freq 1248mhz
QPI Freq 4.800ghz
Bclk 208
CPU Ratio 19
QPI Config Hi-Speed Mode
4.800GT
Memory Ratio 3
Adjusted DRAM Freq. 1248mhz
Uncore Ratio 6
Adjusted Uncore Freq 2496mhz
CPU Voltage +.170
Vcore 1.416v
CPU PLL Auto
QPI Voltage 1.360v
DRAM Voltage 1.55v
Spread Spectrum Disabled
Everything else is on Auto or Default, all Intel speed-limit stuff is disabled, hyper-threading is Enabled and I'd like to keep it that way. I'll try to include screenshots if someone can tell me how to do that. Otherwise, what does everyone think? Can it be done without raising the Vcore?? Thanks in advance!

Yep, I pushed the x20 multiplier and while I could get to 3.8+ghz, it wasn't as stable as the x19 multi. I'm aware that the QPI needs to be under 1.36v but I noticed that the BIOS never gives me a warning (pink) sign. Why is that? It didn't seem to matter so I will drop that back to 1.34v. I was hoping there was some "magical" setting that I wasn't tweaking fat chance, huh? haha
I was hoping to run 4ghz without raising the Vcore but it appears that it's inevitable. I might try to bump it and see how far I can get and leave the 3.95ghz setting for 24/7 operation.
Thanks for the reply HU16E!!

Random BSOD X58 Pro E new build

Hi everyone, I hope you can help me. I'm new to the custom built PC realm so forgive my ignorance on some of the finer points. I have searched and can't seem to find, or perhaps understand a solution to this problem I'm having. So, with the obligatory "please don't hit me" stuff out of the way here's the deal….
This PC was purchased from ibuypower with a factory 20% overclock. BSODs have appeared randomly since I unpacked it. Initially it was thought these screens were due to an unstable overclock, however they have persisted even with optimized defaults enabled. They usually appear during the first boot of the day, during light duty internet browsing, or doing nothing much at all. The BSOD has never appeared under a heavy load such as flight sim, photoshop, or lightroom (overclocked or not the PC has performed flawlessly running these programs). For example I ran flight simulator for three hours the other night at 3.85GHz with my RAM at 1600MHz and it ran beautifully. As you can see below however (info compiled from the program “whocrashed”) it has happened a ton. These have occurred pretty equally in OC and default configuration. I've ran the default win 7 memory diagnostic, LinX, and memtest86+ with no errors found so far. I hope I have provided enough information for a diagnosis, if most it is useless then I apologize and I will do my best to track down whatever additional info may be required to get to the bottom of this. Thank you in advance.
Intel Core i7-960 3.2GHz
MSI X58 Pro-E MS-7522 BIOS ver. 8.14
Corsair DDR3 1600Mhz 3x2GB
XFX HD 6950 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1x16
WD 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 64MB cache
12-1 internal USB card reader
Corsair H70 Liquid Cooler
Enermax 120mm Fan
Windows 7 home premium 64bit
Corsair AX850 850watts (3.3v/25a, 5v/25a, 12v/70a)
Below is a list of all crashes that have occured...
On Fri 4/8/2011 11:53:11 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\memory.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: atikmdag.sys (atikmdag+0x164394)
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFF89FCAC822CC, 0x0, 0xFFFFF88004A21394, 0x5)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
description: ATI Radeon Kernel Mode Driver
On Fri 4/8/2011 4:05:29 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040811-16921-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41284, 0x2FCC001, 0x0, 0xFFFFF70001080000)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 4/6/2011 12:22:06 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040611-14078-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x403, 0xFFFFF68000029698, 0x4E000001B11EA867, 0xFFFFF68000000002)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 4/6/2011 12:13:51 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040611-17062-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFF88047479380, 0x0, 0xFFFFF88004C00215, 0x5)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 4/6/2011 12:29:38 AM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040511-19218-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: fltmgr.sys (fltmgr+0x22751)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41201, 0xFFFFF6800002C398, 0x443000001B152867, 0xFFFFFA8005D5F330)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: Microsoft Filesystem Filter Manager
On Mon 4/4/2011 12:44:17 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040411-16234-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41790, 0xFFFFFA80033A7AC0, 0xFFFF, 0x0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Fri 4/1/2011 3:10:21 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040111-16984-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x3B (0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF88002922120, 0xFFFFF8800A98B7A0, 0x0)
Error: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
description: NT Kernel & System
On Fri 4/1/2011 1:35:24 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\040111-17093-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x80640)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41790, 0xFFFFFA8004970460, 0xFFFF, 0x0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Thu 3/31/2011 6:16:22 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033111-24796-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x70740)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41284, 0xA017001, 0x5CD2, 0xFFFFF70001080000)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Thu 3/31/2011 6:14:46 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033111-14218-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x70740)
Bugcheck code: 0x3B (0xC0000005, 0xFFFFF80002F4A43D, 0xFFFFF88006FF6D70, 0x0)
Error: SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 3/30/2011 6:27:21 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033011-17968-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41790, 0xFFFFFA8003445980, 0xFFFF, 0x0)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 3/30/2011 6:24:50 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033011-22375-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x1A (0x41284, 0x5F3B001, 0xA2D, 0xFFFFF70001080000)
Error: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 3/30/2011 6:23:00 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033011-23234-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x34 (0x50830, 0xFFFFF880033387F8, 0xFFFFF88003338050, 0xFFFFF80002D8908D)
Error: CACHE_MANAGER
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 3/30/2011 6:18:27 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033011-14640-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFFB00C2A67AE0, 0x0, 0xFFFFF96000171509, 0x7)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
description: NT Kernel & System
On Wed 3/30/2011 6:11:53 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\033011-18218-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x71F00)
Bugcheck code: 0x50 (0xFFFFFAA007336454, 0x0, 0xFFFFF880012BD642, 0x5)
Error: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
description: NT Kernel & System

With optimized defaults enabled the DRAM voltage is set to auto and it doesn't appear I can change it..please advise. Also, the BSODs have gotten much worse now and I haven't changed anything, they now occur at any time. I've probably gotten six in the past three hours. I guess the computer knows I have reached out to you guys and it's peeved
When the OC is enabled (hasn't been for several days now, but BSODs still occured when it was) the DRAM voltage was set to 1.64v per "tech support" they said that setting it to 1.65v would actually be 1.66v (not sure how that is, but that's what they said).
And to your last question their OC settings were +0.100 on the CPU voltage and 160 on the base clock.

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