Setting up WDS

Hi,
I have a customer that needs to extends its wireless network wirelessly. All the AP:s (AIR-LAP1242AG-E-K9) are managed by a WLAN Controller (AIR-WLC2106-K9). One of the AP needs to be extended, which i'm guessing, with WDS. This AP needs to have a couple of devices connected to with cable.
(WLAN Controller) ----- wireless ----- (Access Point) ------ Wired ------ (Wired Devices)
Is this setup possible?

Amir,
Its not called as WDS.. WDS is a Autonomous terminology... we need to use WGB (Work Group Bridge)..
here is the link to get its up and running..
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6366/products_configuration_example09186a0080905cea.shtml
Please dont forget to rate the usefull posts!!
Regards
Surendra

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    *{ I }*
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    Message was edited by: Conal Ho

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