Settlement of a project to internal order?

Hi Experts
In a customer project we have RA and settlement as a period end process but as COPA is not configured, So can we settle it to internal order? or is it advisable to settle to internal order?
thanks..
Edited by: SAP PS on May 25, 2011 7:48 PM

Hi,
It is better to settle to a G/l account. for this we need to set in the alocation structure receiver as G/L and settlement cost element with cost element category 21 or 22 (internal or external settlemet) based on the receiver. with this what happens at any given point of time we can see the detailed reports cost element based as well at G/L level also.
Thank you
Best Regards
kishore

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