Settlement of customer project--without COPA

Hi guru's,
We do not have COPA in place here...so how to settle our project.
please provide me any revlevant doc regarding settlement from the config as well as execution of settlement point of view.
I need to sit with my CO consultant.
My counter part CO Consultant has not worked with PS integration so he is not having idea about the settlement for projects....i need to make him understand.
Please help me.

Recommendations in Customer Projects
In customer projects, the actual costs are settled, but accrued amounts (such as costs of sales or inventory from which revenue can be generated) are not. You carry out this settlement at billing element level.
For customer projects which you settle in full to Profitability Analysis, it is a good idea to generate the settlement rule using a strategy defined in the IMG. The standard system we deliver includes a strategy for automatically generated settlement rules for customer projects.
The system uses this strategy to generate the following:
u2022     For all billing elements:
o     Results analysis key
o     Settlement to profitability segment
o     A settlement profile providing for settlement in full
u2022     For all other WBS elements
o     No results analysis key
o     A settlement profile providing for no settlement
If account assignment elements within a billing structure do not contribute to the cost of sales, you can change the settlement rule manually.
If you maintain the settlement rule manually, we recommend you proceed as follows:
u2022     Use a project profile with a settlement profile that forbids settlement. This initially prevents settlement for all the WBS elements in the project.
u2022     Change the settlement profile in the billing elements manually. Define a settlement profile that permits settlement.
u2022     If you want to settle account assignment elements (in whole or in part), you must change the settlement profile for account assignment elements manually.
You change the settlement profile in the settlement rule for the object by choosing Goto  Settlement parameters. There is a parameter in the settlement profile which you can use to define whether settlement is forbidden, allowed, or required.
Avoid making settlements within the project hierarchy. These can adversely affect system performance.
For more information on settling customer projects, refer to Settlement in Product Cost Controlling .
Regards,
ANSAR

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