Setup Matrix

We are using repetative manufacturing, I want to know if I can group all materials by set-up time - hence reduce change overtimes from one group of products to the other.
Can I use Setup group category & setup group Key with planned orders.
Thanks in advance.

1.Set up grop key and categroy will not help in the REM manufacturing table.
2.This setup group and matrix will help in the capacity planning only.Where dispatching can be done by grouping at the setpu group key etc.
3.Even that would complicate the things becuase again we need to check what things system has pushed.
4. But int he capcity planning table -graphical it can belp you to highlight the order by the setup grou key .
5.So if you are looking for a funcitoanlity of grouping the materials in the setup group then that is not possible.
let us know if you have anydoubts..
reg
Dsk

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Using the PPDS setup matrix

Hello All -
I have 3 products A,B and C which are run on a single line during a particular week(day). We have certain set-up times when we move from one product to another. Here are the set-up times:
The sequence in which these products run on the line is decided by the plant scheduler during production planning. The production planners run heuristics and peform manual changes to the planned orders. They know which product runs in which shift but they do not necessarily adjust the planned orders to the hourly level.
What we would like the system to do is somehow incorporate the set-up times when we move from one product to another. We would like to see the the resource being consumed during the set-up time.
Also, we are not in a position to use the optimizer. So any solutions involving the Optimizer are out of scope. Just want to achieve this using heuristics.
To achieve this, I have created the following master data:
1) Created 3 setup groups SG1(A), SG2(B), SG3(C).
2) Created a setup matrix SM1 and set up the transitions for all the above combinations.
3) Assign the setup group to operations in a ppm
4) Assign the setup matrix to the resource
I then created 3 planned orders in production planning for the SAME day. All 3 have the same availability time 23:59:59 and based on run-rates we have different start times.
I have the following questions:
1) Which DS heuristic should I use to adjust the start times and the end times of these orders by considering the set-up times in the setup matrix?
The resource should basically be consumed during these setup times. I have looked at "Reschedule" function in the DS planning board but I get an error when I run this. Please see end of this post for the error. The message says I may not have free capacity, but I do. I am using backward scheduling and infinite.
2) Is there anyway the set-up times/matrix can be considered during production planning itself and not during detailed scheduling?
3) Can the option of "Schedule Sequence" work for my scenario.
Appreciate all your help.
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Error during scheduling
Message no. /SAPAPO/OM043
Diagnosis
The system could not schedule an order, operation or activity.
This could have the following causes:
The resource does not have any free working time or capacity.
If you have set planning direction backwards in the strategy profile:
There is not enough working time or capacity available for scheduling between now and the scheduling date.
If you have set planning direction forwards in the strategy profile:
There is not enough working time or capacity available for scheduling between the scheduling date and the end of the planning area.
If you plan characteristics-dependently:
You have assigned characteristics to operations of the order that do not agree with characteristics of the resources on which the operations are to be processed.
The system cannot find any suitable characteristics on the resources and so it cannot schedule.
Procedure
Depending on which of the above reasons is the cause, change the following settings:
Change the working times and capacities of the resources.
Set the planning mode "infinite planning" in the strategy profile.
Activate the planning direction forwards or backwards and reverse in the strategy profile.
Change the characteristics that you have assigned to the resource.

Thank you all -
It was a mistake on my part. I was supposed to create a new "set up" activity before processing activity and make that relevant to set-up. I had the processing step checked for setp all this while. Now its working.
Thanks
Varun

PPDS: I have a setup matrix in SAP ECC 6.0, and want to transfer the same to APO using Core Interface.

PPDS: I have a setup matrix in SAP ECC 6.0, and want to transfer the same to APO using Core Interface. Has anyone done it before?

Hi Subhash,
Please open this link to see the details:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/89/bd3e42ce98033be10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
You perform the data transfer in the following sequence:
Plant
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Document for PPDS Optimizer Setup Matrix

Dear All,
Can I have a document or an implementation guide for PPDS Optimizer Setup Matrix?
I have already checked the SAP help and Certification Material about this topic. But there is no more information on this topic. It will be great if you provide a document where I can learn from the scratch.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Ram.

Hi Ram,
See wiki page:
General PPDS wiki page
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/SCM/APO-PPDS
Setup Matrix Generation in a Complex Manufacturing Evironment
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/00a618c4-8aad-2b10-6ebb-f70cb4470195
Oficial doc
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/00a618c4-8aad-2b10-6ebb-f70cb4470195?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true
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Scheduling using Setup Matrix in PPDS

Hi Gurus,
We are using PPDS Steup Matrix for scheduling orders. We have scenario that from product A to B, there is a changeover. And after producing A or B for certain hours, there is a cleanout of certain hours.
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While scheduling , A(5hrs) (Setup) B( 5 hrs), this is acheived.
But result should be A(5hrs)(Setup)B(2hrs)(Cleanout)(B 3hrs)
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Hi Priya,
I think Your case can be achieved through campaigm planning.
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Maintain the same setup group & keys in APO also and than CIF PPM.
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And then create cleanout order by using cleanout heuristics between campaigns.
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Setup Matrix and PDS

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Hi Vishy,
There is no rule which prevents usage of PDS for set up matrix.
You can very well use PDS data with set up matrix.
I hope there will be some configuration missing in your set up
to generate the required scenario.
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I have one problem regarding setup matrix assignment. I have created setup matrix, but where to assign this so that I can reduce my setup time required.
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Set up group and transition matrix :- Setup group key is defined in the operation in the routing and then the transition times between setup keys is maintained in configuration. in work center CR02 default value tap you will get field for Setup Type Key.
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Hi, its advisable to create a new setup matrix for the halb product.
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Hi,
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Prasanth

Hi Prashanth,
Setup group tries to group products with similar characteristics.
Setup matrix provides the sequence in which the set up groups
can be executed.
Setup sceanrio is used in cases where in the time taken for switching
over from one product or group of products or category of products or
charactersitics of products which is called as predecessor to another
product or group of products or category of products or characteritiss of
products which is called as successor.
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medium weight and heavy weight products.
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of information and use during planning.
Hope this information is clear to you.
Please confirm whether your issue is resolved.
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Setup Matrix volume Doubts

Hi experts,
I have a couple of questions concerning the setup matrix volume.
1-a)What setup matrix combination volume is considered as acceptable?
b)Which is the break point from where performance issues take place?
3-What happens if the optimizer is optimizing orders and within those orders , there are features which are not included in the matrix.If this eventuality occurs, how the optimizer reacts?
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Analí

Thanks a lot for your advise Frank!!
Question Still pending review:
3-What happens if the optimizer is optimizing orders and within those orders , there are features which are not included in the matrix.If this eventuality occurs, how the optimizer reacts?
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Analí

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HI Victor,
In the setup matrix you are suppose to maintain the dummy PPM detains aganist the setup groups.
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plan: Dummy PPM
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Hi,
I am sure you must be referring to setup matrix which has the data on change overs.
you can find the documents on this in the link
help.sap.com >SCM>APO>Master data > Application specific master data > Master data for production planning > setup matrix
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Dear Friends,
I am facing some problem in setup group category... Please check this scenario and let me know...if anybody is having any idea about this...
My scenario is: I am having a single work center... on which I can do some machining activity.This WC is used in 100 material routings. but all my 100 materials are grouped into 5 categories. based on the dia... for example 100-120 dia one group 121-140 dia another group like that. If my two successive materials are belong to same group..then.. I donot have any setup time. if my two success materials scheduled on that machine are not belong to same group...then I am having 5 hrs of setup time.
so here setup time I can not mention in the routing...
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Hi Suryanarayana,
I see that you have defined setup type and setup group keys and also setup matrix.
Please check the following under SPRO -> CRP -> Capacity leveling and extended evaluation -> Strategy -> Define strategy profile. There is a standard strategy profile to optimize setup times, which is SAPSFCT005 (Fin.sched.for./disp.acc. to setup group). Check the settings under this profile especially the check box "dispatch at best time for set up" to see if it works.
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