Setup pricing - Group Condition doesnt help

Hi Gurus,
Your inputs will highly appreciated - Please advise .
Can SAP determine the sales price as described in the below two cases.
Case 1:
Sales price for material M1, from 01.01.2011 u2013 31.07.2011
Quantity     Price
0     100
25     90
100     75
Sales price for material M1, from 01.08.2011 u2013 31.12.9999
Quantity     Price
0     105
25     94
100     78
Sales order (note the difference in pricing date)
Total quantity = 38, second scale should be used
Item     Material     Pricing date     Quantity     Price
10     M1     31.07.2011     17     90
20     M1     31.08.2011     21     94
Thanks to All for your answers
Sharan

Dear,
Check pricing scales: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/93/7432c4546011d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
http://www.sapfans.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=242682
Regards,
Syed Hussain.

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Set up pricing - Group condition doesnt works

Hi Gurus,
Please provide me your inputs.
Can SAP determine the sales price as described in the below two cases.
Case 1:
Sales price for material M1, from 01.01.2011 u2013 31.07.2011
Quantity         Price
0                         100
25      90
100      75
Sales price for material M1, from 01.08.2011 u2013 31.12.9999
Quantity      Price
0      105
25      94
100      78
Sales order (note the difference in pricing date)
Total quantity = 38, second scale should be used
Item      Material      Pricing date      Quantity      Price
10      M1      31.07.2011      17      90
20      M1      31.08.2011      21      94
Many Thanks for your answers
Sharan

Dear Sumanth,
Thanks a lot for your answer. I am relatively new to this subject. Please elaborate your answer for me to maintain the settings in copy control.
The scenario is - New condition type ZPR0 is created with group condition. And the scales are maintained as mentioned in the problem.
Lets say Order is created on date - 23/11/2011 with two lines
Line 1 - Material M1 - Quantity 17 - Pricing date 31.07.2011(Maintained at item level)
Line 2 - Material M1 - Quantity 21 - Pricing date 31.08.2011(Maintained at item level)
With scales maintained, because of the pricing date , system picks up individual scales and it doesnt accumulates the quantity. How to tell system to accumulate quantity and then check scale based on the pricing date.
Thanks for your help again,
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hi friends
1.wht is header condition and group condition?
2. what r the condution types for header and group conditions?
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Dear Venkata Ramana
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Hi,
This depends on your requirement. If you have defined the condition at the material pricing group level, then no need. The routine is used only if you want the condition to be read differently for each item (with the scale base value being total of all the items).
You can find some help in the below link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/de/7a8534c960a134e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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39034     Group condition routine
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Hi Friends,
Below are the details of the issue i have,
Letu2019s say we have 3 service line items in a service order
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Line item 2-Charge customer (controlled through accounting indicator)
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/c2/0a5288b77d11d3bcce00105ab03aee/content.htm
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- If you modify XVBPA or XVBAP in this exit, do they get overwritten after that.
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DATA: wa_hvbpa LIKE vbpa,
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CLEAR: wa_hvbpa, wa_xvbpa.
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ENDIF.
ENDIF.
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Hi,
In MM what is meaning of Exculsive in Aceess sequence and How is the use of Group Condition in condition type please explain me in simple.
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Access sequence means system will search in sequence for a particular conditon type for condition record.
Group condition.
Indicates whether the system calculates the basis for the scale value from more than one item in the document.
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One question about Pricing and Conditions puzzle me for a long time.I take one example to explain my question:
1-First,my sale order use pricing procedure RVAA01.
2-Next,the pricing procedure RVAA01 have some condition type,such as EK01(Actual Costs),PR00(Price)....,and so on.
3-Next,the condition type PR00 define the Access Sequences PR00 as it's Access Sequences.
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     table 5 : Customer/Material
     table 6 : Price List Type/Currency/Material
     table 4 : Material
5-Next,I need to maintain Condition tables's Records.Such as the table 5(Customer/Material).I guess the sap would supply one screen for me to input the data of table 5.At this screen,the sap would ask me to select one table,such as table 5.When I select the table 5,the sap would go to the screen to let me input the data of table 5.But when I use the T-CODE VK31 or VK32 to maintain Condition tables's Record,I found it's total different from my guess:
A-First,I can not found one place for me to open the table,such as table 5,to let me input the data?
B-Second,For example,when I select the VK31->Discounts/Surcharges->By Customer/Material,the sap show the grid view at the right side.At the each line of the grid view,you need to select the Condition Type at the first field.And this make me confused very much.Why the sap need me to select one Condition Type but not the Condition table?To the normal logic,it ought not to select Condition table but not the Condition Type!
Dear all,I'm a new one in sd.May be this is a very stupid question.But it did puzzle me for a long time.If any one can explain this question in detail and let me understand the concept,I will appreciate him/her very much.Thank you.

Hi,
You said that you are using the T.codes VK31 or VK32.
These transaction codes are used to enter condition records for standard condition types. As you can see a grid left side having all the standard condition types like price, discounts, taxes, frieghts.
Pl check using T.code VK11 OR VK12 (change mode)
Here you can enter the required condition type, in the intial screen. (like PR00, MWST, K004, K005 .....etc)
After giving the condition type, press enter or click on Combinations icon on top of the screen. Then you can see all the condition tables which you maintained for that condition type. Like as you said table 118, table 5, table 6 and table 4.
You can select any table and press enter, then you can go into the screen in which you have all the field cataglogues you maintained for that table. For example you selected combination of Customer/Material (table 5) then after you press enter then you can see customer field on top, and material fields.
You can give all the required values and save the conditon record.
Hope this is clear.
REWARD IF HELPFUL.
Regards,
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