Severe Problems with BIOS v1.9 for K8N Neo Platinum (7030)

I updated to the new BIOS and nothing but crashes, so I tried to go back to 1.7, because everything was working fine with 1.7 and now, the BIOS is asking for a password, and I never setup a password in the BIOS. What the heck, now I have a $1000 (US) paper weight, thanks alot for the buggy BIOS update, now you can send me a new motherboard!!!
**Edit** Well I found a work around, went back to BIOS 1.5 for now until I can get 1.7 to work again, 1.8 and 1.9 are screwed up beyond belief, you can't set any overclocking features, RAM timings are messed, there is no choice for 1T/2T, currently I'm running at SPD on the DRAM and stock on all the CPU functions. I would really like if someone could test these BIOS versions before putting them up so stupid people like me update them. Also, leaving more choices than one BIOS update in MSI LiveUpdate would be nice, because flashing via the floppy drive is a pain in the butt, lucky I have an extra computer to use.**End Edit**

Do a floppy drive flash with the correct switches. Go back to the last bios that worked properly or try Pinochio's bios which a lot of people like. Liveupdate will mess up your bios. So can winflash if you do not use it correctly.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81017.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=86257.msg617198#msg617198
After you have read about it, do this using the correct flash utilty file name and the correct bios file name
"DOS floppy flash shall be performed with :
awfl833d.exe w7030nms.180 /py /sn /wb /cc /cd /cp /f /e
(Replace biosfilename with appropriate version for Neo1/neo2 etc , switches remain the same )
After flash is complete :
TURN OFF PSU (don't restart) wait 15 seconds
Turn on again , press the power button .
Enter BIOS and load optimized defaults (NO OTHER CHANGES) , save + exit
Boot the system again with the floppy in the drive to let the DMI pool build and update itself .
Good luck.

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Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

Good News For K8N Neo Platinum Users!!!

Ok, after fiddling with my BIOS for almost 2 days now, and scanning the forums for a solution, I contacted MSI Technical Support in California, USA. They are sending me a new BIOS chip, free of charge, so anyone having a severe problem with BIOS revisions 1.8 and 1.9 on the K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) please give tech support a call, I let them know I would be posting this in the forum and they will be inandated with phone calls, but woohoo, they are sending a new chip pre-flashed with BIOS revision 1.7.
Please refer to this thread for the reasons why:BIOS v1.9 Is Terrible

What good news? UK based MSI did not offer any such replacement bios after my problems updating to 1.8 bios.
I purchased a new bios chip with 1.9 bios from a UK supplier.....after fitting the bios I returned to the same problems as before, failure to boot past post and freezing in bios menu. I then remembered another post on this sight and removed one stick of memory......everything back to normal .I have just fitted a 1gb Corsair cas 2 memory and all seems well I will save my 2X 512 Corsair XL my next project which will not be a MSI Motherboard
MSI UK have not come out of this very well and from the posts that I have read there are quite a few people out there with problems. Many thanks to all those who posted on this, it certainly helps to know that you are not the only one with problems.
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Zalman Cooller CNPS7000A
1 X 1Gb Corsair 3200C2PT
Gainward 6600GT Golden Sample GLH
550W Enermax Power Pack(EG651P-VE)
Sound Blaster Audigy
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What about the latest BIOS 2.1 K8N Neo Platinum (7030) ? Is it safe to upgrade or should i stay at 1.7 (that really works great) ?

If 1.7 is working for you I'd suggest staying with it. (Always a good idea even if the new bios is stable).
I had problems overclocking with V2.1 (the ide initialisation hangs) and many others have complained about problems with more than one stick of mem.

Bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754)

Wich is the last beta bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754) ?
And where download?
Thanks

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
and when 1.55 appeared:
New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]
Seems to me that the 1.5x series were focused on chipset timings and ram .
Another thing is that i can boot from a usb pen with this one .(never got it to work with others) .
Beta bioses don't come with a changelog , they leak out . So any complete
list of changes is not possible to provide.

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Thanks Blackrat7768

Quote from: BlackRat7768 on 09-February-06, 21:34:23
My issues are:
Improve compatilbility problem with some USB 2.0 devices
BIOS reported incorrect CPU temperature.
If you have the d-bracket installed, it may help to completely disconnect it. Sometimes it will cause inaccurate temp readings. You can always plug it back in if you need it for troubleshooting.
I unhooked mine & my reported CPU temps dropped by 8C...

Where do i find bios v1.1 for k8n neo platuinum?

i'm wondering where i can find bios v1.1 for my mobo k8n neo platinum?
Oh, and how do i flash my bios to use it?

Browse the forum there is a link with all the bioses.
But why would you want 1.1 ???
Its the first bios...AND IT SUX !!!
Try the 1.4 official if you don't want to be a beta tester...
You can get that from live update that comes with your mobo CD.

BIOS FOR K8n neo platinum

A while back there was a big post about how to properly upgrade your bios and he had listed every bios beta or official for download. Anyone have that post? and What is the best bios for the K8n Neo platinum? Im still running on 1.1....

Quote from: Supershanks on 09-June-05, 04:24:05
Just the usual bios to bios temp tweak - no worries
Have been running with speedfan with a 4C offset think i can dith it now with 1.8
Higher or lower?
Hmmm... My SpeedFan is running with no delta adjustments on the temps. I wonder if there is a discrepancy in what it's reporting & what it actually is after you boot into Windows
I'd try to go by what the Hardware Monitor says, but temp's always seem to be high when you're in BIOS anyway....

New Windows XP 64bit, but no drivers for K8N Neo Platinum

Hello,
I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum with an AMD 2800+. Just received the new Windows XP 64bit edition after attending a trade show in Houston. Used Partition Magic to make a separate partition on my SATA 400GB HD, knowing there was possibly going to be a problem. This is the final release, retail packaged, not the Beta.
The only drivers found was for my MSI Nvidia 5600 AGp video card. No other audio, Nvidia chipset or board drivers are plug & play. Onboard LAN isn't even found.
Any drivers out yet? I figure i'll have to wait. Can't get updates either bacause it won't detect onboard LAN or a Linksys or 3Com PCI card I tried also.
Woodrow

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HELP! K8n Neo Platinum (7030) 2.10 Bios -- CPU overheating

AAAAAH Someone help me!!
I just downloaded the MSI Liveupdate program, and Updated my Bios from 1.7 to 2.10.
With Bios version 1.7 I was running my AMD 64 3200+ at solid 35-55 degrees (min to max)
Now with this new bios version, my CPU runs at 57-72 degrees (min-max) !!!!!!
HOLY CRAP -- this processor is not even rated to run at temperatures above 70 degrees Celsius!!
I'm in the danger zone as I type out this message to you guys, and I'm worried I'll reduce the shelf life of my processor.
CAN ANYONE HELP ME??? I've tried changing All the settings around in the bios, I've even set the processor down to about 1.8 ghz, and it's still running at temperatures above 55 degrees...
From what I understand there is no way of removing a bios flash, is that correct? Am I stuck with this crappy 2.10 bios flash?
What can I do? Please dear god... help me.

Ok answers to your questions:
My board is a MSI-7030 (K8N Neo Platinum) And Originally I flashed the bios from 1.7 to 2.1 Via Liveupdate (MSI Live Monitor & Live Update 3)
- I read your faq on how to manually rollback the bios, and i rolled back to version 1.9 (which I had never had before)
and that did not seem to work. My temp is still at 68-72 C -- even in the bios.
A few questions I need to ask now:
1) Is the next step is to revert back to 1.8? Then if that doesn't work, back to my original 1.7?
-- also, 2) Who is Syar? Where can I get his version of the bios? --
Finally: 3) What is the CMOS battery? I know what the Jumper is, but I'm not sure what the battery is...
Is that the circular battery that's next to the BIOS Jumper? (maybe a picture would help..)
Thanks for all the responses so far! you guys are saving me from having a major emotional breakdown here.. I thought I was going to have to buy a new mobo.
I'll check back here on the forums in a few hours to see if anyone has responded,
(p.s. TY SO MUCH for caring enough to help a fellow hardware enthusiast!!! )

Need some recommendations for K8N Neo Platinum

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Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series PC-3200 - $141
Kingston HyperX 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - $141
Please provide other suggestions if you have them, I was leaning towards the Corsair.
As far as the heatsink goes I know several people on here use the ZALMAN CNPS7000A which looks pretty darn nice to me because it is so quiet but do I really need something like this since I won't be overclocking? I am tempted to get it just because it is so quiet, that's something I am trying to do this time since my current computer is 10ft tall and sounds like a lawn mower. I got the Antec Sonata case with the big 120mm ehxaust fan to help out the cause. Thanks for any help.

Yeh I have been there and the only reason I am not getting it from there is that they are out of stock. So I was going to get it from Directron.com but I noticed that apparently have two all copper Zalman's the CNPS7000 and the CNPS7000A. I suppose I'll just get the "A" version since that is the one they have on NewEgg. Now just have to lock down my memory choice and I am all set.
My bad I just went out and checked the picture for the 7000A on Directron and it clearly has aluminum in it, they just didn't mention it in the description. I'll just have to see if it is worth it for the extra 8 bucks to get the all copper one.

K8N Neo Platinum 7030 Problem

I have a K8N Neo Platinum and as of the past week my computer has been acting really strange. I has had random lockups that at first made me think it was the video card. That wasn't the case. I tried a different power supply and that didnt help. So I decided to take everything out of my computer. I had everything unplugged from the motherboard power, ide cables, etc. I noticed as I was taking everything out that I felt like I was getting shocked by my case but I don't know how because I had no power supply in my computer and all the cards, processor, memory were taken out. When I took the mb out i didn't feel the shock anymore, but when I put the mb back in the case and hooked the power supply back up to it I did. I even vacuumed out the case totally removing all dust and dirt. Am I missing something here? HELP lol

thanks for replying glenn after 2 days of hunting i can now say
90% sure the whining is from the powersupply
using my advanced hearing device i found a flaw in its design. before i would put it near psu but not hear the whine from there. well it occured to me to tilt it ever so slightly (tip from radio broacasting in college) to let the noise in but block any wind from crossing the end of my tube. and ch ching finally from the rear of the psu is where it is loudest.
ive owned 3 enermax and theyve been the best psu ive ever owned. but this weekend im swap it with my other and see if it still happens. it will probably take 2 hours total do it which is why ive put it off this long. ive tried bumping the wires around even though its a full size chieftech with all my watercooling gear its almost impossible to not have the wires overlap each other at least a few times. but with the moving around i did do it didnt help.

Problems with older PCI-Videocards on K8N SLI Platinum ??

Hi there,
i just recieved my K8N SLI Platinum (without NEO) yesterday. Unfortunatly my new PCIe-Videocard isn't here yet,
so i just built my rig with an old S3 Trio64 to install Windows etc. and to have at least my PC for some surfing and so on...
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The Card is marked with an ! in the device-manager. It says the card couldn't get its required resources, and that i'd have to
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[ApoC]

Well,
"f***ing up" the OS is not a problem, i got a GHOST of my perfectly fresh & clean OS.
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the FireWire-Controller (which is shown in Windows anyways )
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show any information in the cards resource-infos but that it ain't working (say what?)
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[ApoC]
Edith says:
I remember problems with the APIC-Mode on many nForce-2 Boards. Could this still be a problem? Any infos on that matter yet?

New BIOS (v2.1) for MSI Neo Plat 7030

I noticed that there are some fairly new BIOS versions available for the MSI Neo Platinum v1.0 (7030).
I'm currently on BIOS version v1.7 and that's been stable.
Has anyone tried version v2.1 ?
I've heard bad things about v1.8 so I'm not messing with that.

it is for me
i only updated BIOS when i was trying out some overclocking, and it gave me some better results, than when i was with BIOS 1.4, which i had used for a year previously with no issues
if you don't need to update BIOS, then you don't need to update BIOS; its not like updating a driver
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No power on Socket 754 K8N Neo Platinum 7030-010

Hi, all -
I've stripped the system down to just:
Neo Platinum part MSI-7030-010
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (Socket 754) - retail, so original AMD HSF
512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 - half of an original 1gb TwinX pair
Dual 74gb WD Raptors in Raid 0, but tested with them detached.
Lite-on DVD burner (I misremember the model), but tested with it detached.
MSI Fx5500 AGP vid card, but tested with it pulled out.
No overclocking at all.
Standard PS2 Mouse and KB, though I also yanked those and tested with no better results.
This is sitting in a case that came with a QMax 330W psu:
+3.3 - 28A
+5 - 35A
+12 - 16A
+5VSB - 2A
-5V - 0.3A
-12V - 0.8A
"+5/+3.3 total 200W max"
"+5/+3.3/+12 total 330W max"
The whole system has been working juuuust fine since last August.
I built the rig for a friend, so here's their story - it suddenly started making a funny noise (thought to be PSU?) and the top of the case (above the PSU) was hot to the touch. Powered down and went to dinner. Later, it will not power up. You push the button, and there's NOTHING. No clicks, no temporary fan whirs, nothing. You could hear a pin drop.
I tested the PSU as far as starting it up, and it does start, but I don't have the equipment to test it for voltages. I tested the mobo as far as shorting out the power switch jumper with a screwdriver, and NOTHING. I also plugged in another psu that I had sitting around, with the same results. I was able to get the 2nd PSU to start while still plugged into the mobo, and the "D-Link 2" LEDs start at 4 red, and stay at 4 red.
My biggest clue is that manually shorting the power switch jumper on the mobo does nothing. I have entered an RMA request to MSI, but if anyone else has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks!
Rob

Thanks for the resource!
Two others I've read claim that I need no more than 300W under full load. I'll have them replace the PSU anyway.
MSI approved the mobo RMA, though, and I just disassembled the machine. Turns out that the stock AMD HSF - the one that came with the CPU - which I attached with the heatsink goo that came with the CPU - has cemented itself to the CPU. I "gently" pried the hsf out of the socket and it took the CPU with it!
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Has anyone run into THAT one before?

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