Sg-300 - 3750 stack with SPANNING-TREE root problem.

Morning. I think ive configured a few hundred switches, maybe a thousand in my time, but never have a faced such horribleness that is the SG-300. After this week, I think ill refuse to touch them.
Got 2 voice vlans and running a few vrf's on a 3750 stack. but this discussion is about layer 2.
2 x 3750 stacked
1 x voice switch sg-300 company A voice vlan 18 - Po1 up to 3750 distributed etherchannel Po1 (LACP active both sides) 2 ports in channel
1 x voice switch sg-300 company B voice vlan 19 - Po1 up to 3750 distributed etherchannel Po2 (LACP active both sides) 2 ports in channel
Allowed vlans on both sides (command on Port-channel) are data A, Voice A, Mgt A to switch A
Allowed vlans on both sides (command on Port-channel) are data B, Voice B, Mgt B to switch B
It seems that these switches are limited to one voice vlan....
and that spanning tree BPDU's are ignored (or not recevied- havnt released the shark yet).  let me explain.
originally when using "smart port" the switch with the lowest mac address, whatever Voice vlan was configured would take over the other switche's voice vlan, argh what a nightmare.
I gave up on the GUI as its far to complcated and have Almost got this working.
I am now using auto voice vlan, but have disabled smart macro. I hope that disabling smart macro stop other switches from learning the switch with the lowest mac address's voice vlan.  So far so good - in the LAB. No where was it documented in the cli guide how do disable this stupid feature.
DHCP is working from scope on core, can mange the switches etc etc, access vlan voice vlan all good (after a monster battle).
Now I have an issue with spanning tree.
spanning tree priority for vlans 1-4094 on the 3750 is 4096.
spanning tree priority for vlans 1-4094 on the SG-300's is 6xxxx.
ALL switches think that they are the root. (well the "logical" 3 of them) The 3750's for all vlans, and the SG-300 for the one instance as it doesnt support per vlan.  (I am not interested in trying MST here..this is not a datacentre)
On the 3750's Ive tried ieee, pvst, rpvst, while matching the non per-vlan equivalent on the SG series.
What is the difference between a General port and Trunk Port on a SG-300 specific to spanning tree, native vlans (when you can just configure an untagged vlan anyway!!) and what is the relevance to the way the bpdu's are carried?
And why the need for a PVID, when you can tell a port what is tagged and what isnt.
Does the trunk need Vlan1 to be explicitly allowed, and untagged? Does the Po trunk need to be a general port with PVID configured? in vlan 1?
I need to sort this, as cannot put an access switch into production that thinks it is the root of the tree.  I wish I had a 2960.... a 3500XL..anything
Does anyone have CLI commands that can help here?

F.Y.I for catylyst heroes - here is the equivalent config for SG-300 - Vlan1 is required on the allowed list on the catylyst side (3xxx/4xxx/6xxx)
In this example:
VLANS - Voice on 188, data on 57, management on 56.
conf t
hostname XXX-VOICE-SWXX
no passwords complexity enable
username xxxx priv 15 password XXXXX
enable password xxxxxx
ip ssh server
ip telnet server
crypto key generate rsa
macro auto disabled
voice vlan state auto-enabled !(otherwise one switch controls your voice vlan….)
vlan 56,57,188
voice vlan id 188
int vlan 56
ip address 10.230.56.12 255.255.255.0
int vlan1
no ip add dhcp
ip default-gateway 10.230.56.1
interface range GE1 - 2
switchport mode trunk
channel-group 1 mode auto
int range fa1 - 24
switchport mode trunk
switchport trunk allowed vlan add 188
switchport trunk native vlan 57
qos advanced
qos advanced ports-trusted
exit
int Po1
switchport trunk allowed vlan add 56,57,188
switchport trunk native vlan 1
do sh interfaces switchport po1
!CATYLYST SIDE
!Must Explicitly allow VLan1, this is not normal for catalysts - or spanning tree will not work ! Even though it’s the native vlan on both sides.
interface Port-channel1
switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,56,57,189
switchport mode trunk

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