SGE2000 QoS: Ingress Rate Limit BUG ?

I buyed a new unit of SGE2000. Thirst I changed firmware to newest one (3.0.0.18) so I do not know what firmware was installed before.
The problem is that it is not posssible to change Ingress Rate Limit to value lower than 3500...
Hardware Version
00.00.01
Software Version
3.0.0.18
Boot Version
2.0.0.03
Manual says:
Ingress Rate Limit — Defines the amount of bandwidth assigned to the interface.
For FE ports, the rate is 62 - 100,000 Kbps.
For GE ports, the rate is 62 - 1,000,000 Kbps
====
Default value for Ingress Rate Limit field is 3500, while I change it to eg. 512 the combobox is opening with warning information:
"Entered value in highlighted field must be an Integer. Range 3500...1000000"
"Committed Information Rate (CIR)" field allow to put a value down to 64, so it is ok.
Should I downgrade firmware to v3.0.0.17 ?
Any help appreciated.

My appologies for the lack of reply here.  I checked with the PM for the product and they asked me if there is a case open with the Small Business Support Center (SBSC) on this issue.  Have you had a case open on this yet?  If not can I ask you to log a case and then respond back to this postig with the case number please?  It seems this is a bug so the product team will need to process the fix for this via the standard problem identification/case reporting process.
Thanks in advance!

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    Thanks for any help

    Hello,
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    CAR?
    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_command_reference_chapter09186a0080087f26.html#wp1037428
    For command list check the following link:
    Catalyst 3560 Switch Command Reference, Rel. 12.2(25)SEE
    http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat3560/12225see/cr/index.htm
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    http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat3560/12225see/scg/swqos.htm
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    Limiting the Bandwidth on an Egress Interface
    http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat3560/12225see/scg/swqos.htm#wp1253412
    Hope this help a bit,
    if it does, please rate this post.
    Vlad

  • Service-Policy Or Bandwidth Rate Limit for IP

    Hii Netpros,
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    Actual Network :-   We need this to configure this for wireless customers, Actually we have created one Vlan 2 (IP:- 10.10.10.1/29 @ our end router) , 10.10.10.2 on Basestation wiresss device (Vlan 2 allowed on this wireless device) and this wireless device is working as point to multipoint wireless. i.e 2 or more then 2 wireless customers or last mile will connect to this basestation wireless.  Wireless customer-1 is 10.10.10.3 (2Mb bandwidth)  and Wireless Customer-2  10.10.10.4 (512Kb).
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    Thanks

    This topic is probably better suited in another Infrastructure forum, but I suppose it depends on which features are supported by your Cisco hardware and software. This doc discusses a variety of options:
    http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2/qos/configuration/guide/qcfpolsh.html
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  • Rate limit guest ssid 5500 foreign to 2504 anchor

    Hi
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  • Wireless rate limit

    Hi,
    My network infrastructure as simple as following:
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    I define 3 wireless VLANs with 3 SSIDs on the Aggregator switch(3750):
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    2. one SSID for wireless IP phones.
    3. one SSID for company guest which access only internet.
    And the wireless APs connected to the LAN(edge switches) direct with trunks.
    My question is how to apply a rate limit for SSID for company guest to access internet with B.W. of 128kbps only.
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    Hi Ahmed:
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      http://tools.cisco.com/squish/5aCf1
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    Sincerely,
    Rollin Kibbe
    Network Management Systems Team

  • Configuring rate-limit in switch 6500

    Good morning gentlemen
    Consider a 6509E (supervisor 720 3B) switch with many interface VLANs configured, one of each related to each customer. Each interface VLAN had configured a rate-limit input and output configured representing the maximum bandwidth permitted for the customer.
    I could configured that way using the old IOS s72033-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-18.SXF7.
    Last weekend I had to upgrade that IOS to s72033-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXJ7. All rate-limits in VLAN interfaces disappeared, probably not supported in this new version.
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    Follow my questions:
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    I believe that only need "police" for QOS. No need for any other kind of QOS.
    2 - Should I enable "mls qos vlan-based" for each physical layer 2 port connected to that switch related to each interface vlan with police?
    Expected only one physical port (or port-channel) for each customer (and each VLAN) connected to a switch.
    Thank you and regards
    Christian

    Interesting that I have just upgraded the IOS to the last version 12 release.
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  • Rate-limit Burst explanation

    Hi All - I need your help to understand the Burst value in the Rate-Limit
    Example: rate-limit input access-group 101 20000000 24000 32000
    I understand the above configuration limit the traffic to 20Mbps. How to calculate the Burst-Normal (as per example above 24000 Bytes) and Burst-Max(as per above example 32000 Bytes). What is the logic for arriving the Burst-Normal & Burst-Max?
    Thanks in advance
    SAIRAM

    Hi Sairam,
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    CIR : committed information rate, in bits per second, defines the rate defined in the traffic contract.
    Tc : Time interval,measured in miliseconds, over which the committed burst (Bc) can be sent.
    Bc : Committed burst size,measured in bits. This is the amount of traffic that can be sent over the interval Tc.
    Be : Excess burst size, in bits. This is number of bits beyond Bc that can sent after a period of inactivity.
    Formula to calculate Bc is 
    Bc = CIR*Tc
    Now to understand Bc and Tc, say suppose you have applied 20mbps rate-limit on a 100mbps fastethernet link. Now link can send data (bits) with clock-rate only which is 100mbps so to achieve 20mbps rate on that link router needs to send traffic for 1/5th of a sec and remain idle for 4/5th of a second. 1/5th of sec is 200 msec. If router will send traffic for 200msec and not sending traffic for next 800msec, it can achieve rate of 20mbps but a packet arrived at 199th sec will need to wait for 800msec and this will add unnecessary latency to the packet. To avoid this, router sends few bits for short duration and then does not send for some duration. For the period it sends traffic is called Tc value. and the number of bytes it can send during that interval is called Bc  value. So CIR = Bc/Tc (bits per interval).
    Now we dont have option to configure Tc but we can configure CIR and Bc, and Tc will automatically be calculated. If we do not configure Bc then router takes default Tc of 125ms and calculates the Bc. 
    What value to choose for Bc
    If we configure Bc too large then Tc will go high for same CIR and this may cause delay or jitter for delay sensitive traffic. For delay sensitive traffic cisco recommends to have Tc 10ms or less.
    If i calculate Tc in the given example, it is coming as 9.6ms which is close to 10ms that is why Bc is set as 24000.
    Tc = Bc/CIR
       = 24000(bytes)/20000000(bits/sec)
       = 192000(bits)/20000(bits/ms)
       = 192/20
       = 9.6 msec
    Now Be is to give extra bandwidth for small interval(Tc) to cater some bursty traffic. Assume there is a bucket which gets filled with Bc amount of token in every Tc interval and router can send traffic if there is sufficient  amount of token available in the bucket, equal to the packet size. After forwarding packet router reduces same amount of token from the bucket. Size of bucket is also equal to Bc which means if there is no traffic for Tc interval, bucket can not hold more token. Be is to increase the size of bucket to (Bc + Be). Now in every Tc interval bucket will be filled with Bc token and if there is a period of inactivity then in next interval bucket can be filled with extra Bc amount of token till it reaches to (Bc + Be) and if there is any bursty traffic (more than Bc) same can be adjusted. So for a very small period router may send traffic with more rate (higher than CIR, since sending Bc+Be in Tc interval) but over a period does not cross CIR.
    You can also use below "Ask the expert" event for QoS to further queries related to QoS.
    https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12259571/ask-expert-quality-service-qos-cisco-ios-routers
    Please dont forget to rate post if it has been helpful.
    Regards,
    Akash

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