Shake without Final Cut

Will Shake work without Final Cut? I'm on a tight budget and cannot afford Final
Cut Pro. Will Shake work with Express or iMovie?

Yes, I'd like to have FCP Studio also. What I want to do is take an existing video (probably a .mov, but still not sure) and add some title graphics (not text) with a kind of effect where the title graphic 'falls' from vertical (sticking straight out of screen) to flat. Also, on the latter stages of the video, I'll need to composite some city flyover video onto terrain created in Vue. Does this make sense?

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Hello,
i got a question , if i plan to download the 'Motion 5" must have program 'final cut pro?"
or it is okay without the 'final cut Pro"

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Plugin for Export Project to shake like in Final Cut Pro

Hi
Is there a plugin or a way to just move it from Final Cut Pro 6 that will let me export to shake from Final Cut Express Like in Final Cut Pro.
If i can just move it from Final Cut Pro plugin folder or something.
I have Final Cut Studio 2
my friend Has Final Cut Express And Shake 4.1

Ok so it does not change the quality of the video. And how does the send to shake work does it just add a link to the movie then when done in shake it exports to a new movie file with edits.
He decided
He will just open the movie that needs effects in Shake edit it Then export it. Then open the movie in Final Cut Express And put it all together. And Done
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