Shared Members in Duplicate Members Hierarchy

It seems that many people have asked this question on this forum but I am yet to find a solution. Most of the posts were about 5 years old so I am hoping maybe something new has happened since.
I have a dimension that has a regular and alternate hierarchy (shared members). I have changed this dimension to duplicate members enabled. Once I have this turned on, my regular dimension build rule no longer creates shared members but instead creates a new member of the same name. I cannot find any property that I can put in the dimension load rule to specifically tag members as shared. The only way that I can change it is in EAS one by one. Is there any fix that allows me to load shared members through a load rule with duplicate members enabled?

You may have seen my posts on this on Network54 from 2007 or so while you were searching. I could never find a way to do this, and there is no property to tag members as "Shared" to the best of my knowledge. I tried it again quite recently (in 11.1.2.3.500) and got the same result.

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Hi gurus,
I'm building two members of a dimension hierarchy through rule files, i have two .dim files in level reference format so i created two rule files.The problem is during defining the dimension build properties because some of the members in the second member hierarchy have to be defined as shared members.
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I understand that with Essbase Version 11, you can build duplicate members into your outline without having to designate them shared?
Is there a hit to the system performance with this variable turned on?

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But Essbase can't tell the difference (and how would you tell on the retrieval side?) of Parent1.ChildA (the first) and Parent1.ChildA (the second).
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How to import duplicate members while importing dimensions using flat file in EPMA Dimension Library (11.1.2.1).
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From the EPMA Guide:
Specifying Primary and Shared Instances of a Member using IsPrimary
In import files, any two members in the same dimension, with the same name, are always treated
as separate instances of the same member. If a member has multiple instances in a dimension,
the IsPrimary column specifies which instance is primary and which instance(s) are shared. The
IsPrimary column is not required; however, we strongly recommend that you use it. If left
undefined, it defaults to “True”, which assumes that the member is primary. If left undefined,
a warning is displayed in the Import Results file.
Note: Older import files, that do not use the IsPrimary column, can still be run. However, if the
import file does not have the IsPrimary column, it is not possible to create shared members
or move members.
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I found some information in online help about it but am not clear with it
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Hello,
Create a new member down the first one in your dimension. Put the value 'shared member' in DataStorage options.
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I have just built an ASO cube allowing duplicate members for the first time. I have 2 dimensions with duplicate parents (Other):
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The 'Member' section contains a duplicate entry; the subsequent input line 'NB AWP|Revenue||||||None|Currency||False|False|False|False|N|False|||False|False|N|Default|0|0|Default|None||Plan2|1|Balance|False|Numeric|||||False|NonExpense|False||' will not be processed.
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Ragav.

As you are talking about a planning application then duplicate members are not supported but Shared members are.
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http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

Allowing duplicate members in outline or anything else?

Essbase 9.3.1 + OBI EE 10g
I have such dimension in outline
Dim1
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-Child2(+)
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-Child2(+) (shared)
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"Child1", "Child2" and "Child3" are the children of the "Par1" for all of the "Years"
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and "Child2" is the child of the "Par3" when the period="Year2".
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Instead of shared members to solve this problem I can add to children of "Dim1" the name of their parents(ex. "Child2(Par2)" and "Child2(Par3)") and then apply specific formulas to "cost". But business users dont want to see these addings and cut them in their reports.
So if i allow essbase to use duplicate members will it resolve my problem or there are another ways to do it?

Hi again.
Use this method (without allowing duplicate members) and unfortunately cant stay with it.
1. I always create aggregational views after importing the data into cube.
But now after arrgregation i cant open dim Country.(got the error "Cannot send data") in EAS and OBI. In essbase.cfg two parameters(NetDelay.. and NetRetry...) are equal 75000.
Made two tricks in windows registry - the same. Understood that it was because of one member of level 1(c99) which has 228 childen and each children has such formula
"IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="02",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="03",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="04",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="05",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="06",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="07",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="08",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="09",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="10",c732,IIF(substring([Times].CurrentMember.Member_Name,3,4) ="11",c732,MISSING))))))))))"
after filtering on all other members(even together) i got the result. But i dont understand why...Other 14 level-1 members also has children(max 178) and they queries normally.
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Country(Hierarchies Enabled)
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If i choose level-2 members of this dim with different measures and other dim members it shows the result.
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except stored member "c00" - with it i get my SUM.
If i add filer with ONE! year inside i get my SUM. If more than one or none - "no data found"
except stored member "c00" - with it i get my SUM.
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for each member...and there will be a lot of measures (CostN...) course the formula is very huge...

Duplicate Members in Essbase

I need to have duplicate members in one of my dimensions, without adding a qualifying prefix or sufix. For example, suppose my dimension is as follows:
Country->State->City->Zip. I want to have duplicate member names at the City level, without having something like "MA_Springfield". I want the city name to just be "Springfield"
So in order to accomplish this, I modify the key binding for City in Essbase Studio to the following:
*"[" || connection : \'OBIEEDEV'::'ENTERPRISEBI.COUNTRYDIM.'Country' || "].[" || connection : \'OBIEEDEV'::'ENTERPRISEBI.COUNTRYDIM.'State' || "].[" || connection : \'OBIEEDEV'::'ENTERPRISEBI.COUNTRYDIM.'City' || "]"*
I then enable duplicate members in Essbase properties and deploy the cube, but the Cities that are duplicates get dropped during the outline build.. The error messages say that *"duplicate members are not allowed at this generation level"*
What am I doing wrong?
Appreciate any advise.
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Edited by: 806008 on Nov 11, 2010 11:19 AM
Edited by: 806008 on Nov 11, 2010 11:22 AM

Hello,
Create a new member down the first one in your dimension. Put the value 'shared member' in DataStorage options.
Regards

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In my case L is duplicated across two dimensions [L=LOCAL as a BOOK_CODE and L=LIABILITY as an ACCOUNT_TYPE].
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---Area3 : Area Manager
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To my rules file I added 3 new columns:
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