Shared Variable Engine

Hi,
What happens to network variables stored in the RT machine after a restart(after calling RT restart). I am experiancing weid behaviour.
They seem to reset to a default value and I checked in the project via their propertis, Initial values is not set, and there are no callers at the start of the VI.
Anyone has any ideas for this? Or at least tell me if values should persist after restart or reset?
Thank you very much,
Mihai

Hi,
I use shared variables stored on a PXI RT embedded controller.
After a reboot, the variables are not set to the default value corresponding to their data type structure but to a "no known value" state (I don't know how it's exactly labelled in english, as I use a french version of LabVIEW).
I noticed that if you try to read a shared variable in a "no known value" state using the "read variable" VI, you just get a warning. If you use the "read variable with timeout" VI, the code waits for a modified value of the variable, but once the shared variable has been initialized (ie has a known value) no stop occurs at the first reading with the "read variable with timeout" VI (even with an infinite timeout), as the current value of the variable when the code is launched is viewed as a "new" value.
Not sure that this message will help you
I've also experienced strange behaviours in reading shared variables : I've posted here a message in the french section af the forum, but without answer ; I plan to repost it here after new tests.
Best regards,
HL

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    Hi,
    I have a problem with the Shared Variable Engine,
    A .doc File is attached to this message, decribing the problem with pictures.
    I will be glad if anyone can help me. 
    Sincerely yours
    Amitai Abramson
    Attachments:
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    Hi Amitai,
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    Message Edited by Hillman on 12-03-2008 12:19 PM
    Message Edited by Hillman on 12-03-2008 12:19 PM
    Kind Regards
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