Sharing keywords in Bridge CS3

Our office would like to use Bridge to manage our image library and I'm working through the implementation. As I understand it, if our images are stored on a server, each user can see all keywords applied to a given image. However, is it possible for each user to access a "living" master keyword list, whether or not those keywords have been applied to an image? Ideally, each user would be able to add keywords to the list, with any changes being reflected in the master list.

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> I am trying to get my mind around Indexing, as I think this is the
> root of your question. It appears that until you open the file and
> build the thumbnails (Indexing) the computer does not know they exist.
>
> I have asked in this forum if anyone knows about the indexing
> function, but have had to response. In the Find mode it appears if you
> have the box checked "include non-indexed files" it indexes each time
> you do a search.
As I understand it, indexing builds a database that P Bridge uses to find
files and match them to thumbnails. It seems that Bridge doesnt use the
operating system FAT or file table when it does searches. When searching
for a file, Bridge goes to its index to look for it, not the operating
system. If its not in the index, bridge cant find it unless you tell it
to look for in the un-index files, then it goes to the operating systems
file system. I found it strange, but it most likely makes it easer for
Bridge to match files with thumbnails, metadata etc.
John Passaneau

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Tags / Keywords PSE6 -- Bridge CS3 how???

Hello,
sorry to cause inconvenience to you but i can´t find an answer to my question here in the forum.
I read a lot of similar threads, but no one answerd my problem BridgeCS3 <-> PSE6.
What i have:
Bridge CS3 / Photoshop CS3 / Photoshop Elements 6.0
What i want to do:
At this time i organize all my photos with the Organizer of PSE6 and put keywords
with the Tags-function from PSE6 to my photos.
Now i want to change to the bridge to organize my photos.
What i need:
Now i need a functionality to import all my keywords/tags from PSE6 into the bridge.
What i have done until now:
In PSE6-Organizer i export all my keywords to a file. The automatic generated file
from PSE6 is named: stichwort.xml . I can´t change the format or name in PSE6 to write the Tags
to a file.
In the bridge i tried to import the "stichwort.xml"-File, but that doesnt work.. There are no structures
and useable Keywords coming into the bridge.
So... is it general possible to import the Tags/Structure form PSE6 into the BridgeCS3 ??
And when... what´s my fault? Can you give me a hint?
Thanks for help.
Bye

There was a post some time ago that I will try to recall - hopefully not too inaccurately. I have never used PSE so don't really know what you are trying to do.
The way I remember it PSE uses some sort of a table for the keywords. Bridge does not, but embeds the information as metadata to each file. Apparently this is more of a standardized format for the data and can be used by other applications.
For a clearer explanation on how the information is handled go to Bridge Help and type in metadata. It does say something about ability to export metadata so maybe that would work for you.
Before you go to all that effort you might investigate how PSE Organizer may handle the data in the future. Can never tell - the next upgrade may change that feature also. Perhaps PSE forum?

Lost Keywords in Bridge CS3

A few months ago I had some spare time and thought I would create a graphics library in Bridge. We are on CS3. So I went to clipart.com, got about 100 images, mostly PNGs, and loaded them up in bridge. I created about 100 keywords and assigned applicable keywords to the images.
Then I had to do some other things for a month or two.
When I came back to Bridge, my graphics were still there, but all my keywords had vanished and graphics that were tagged with the keywords no longer had the tags either. Would anyone know why? I am using XP SP2 if that helps.
Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Are the keywords still listed in the keywords panel? They should be. Right click on one and then click on Find in flyout menu. Does this bring up the images?

Sharing Keywords in Bridge

My husband and I have macs,
and we both are using the Bridge 5.0
we share a photo drive over our wireless router network
I was wondering how the keywords that he assigned to the photos on our newtork can be view on my end . When I do a keyword search none of the items come up
helP!

we share a photo drive over our wireless router network
Bridge is not designed for use over a network, there are many threads about network usage in this forum, try also a search for 'The digital Archivist'. It seems sometimes seems possible but needs a lot of discipline.
In basic when you add a keyword to a file it saves in the XMP data in the file itself. Bridge has its own cache file in the user library and also in this user library there is a folder called 'application support' containing user specific settings like the keyword list that you have used on your Mac. When your husband adds a keyword to the list it is not automatically appearing in your list. If a file contains a keyword that is in the file but not in your list it appears as 'italic', with right click mouse menu on this word you can choose to make it persistent and then it is in your list and looks normal.
Although I have no experience with network shared disks I think it might be possible for you to find the keywords but as said not sure. You need to index the disk first for each Mac. This mostly is done automatically but it can be activated also with the Find command (Edit Find or cmd+F) Inhere choose source (your network disk) criteria Keyword: contains / -the text you want to find-. Be sure to have both checkmarks for subfolders and non indexed files activated and do a search. This might take a while.
If one of you has added a lot of new keywords to the list it might also be wise to use the export key word list function (keyword tab menu top right in the panel). The other one should use the import function for that new list and you both end up with the same list.
As said, it needs discipline because Bridge is original meant for stand alone usage.
Another option is to use a dedicated DAM (Digital Asset Management) application but also not sure about network usage for the common apps. You might find more info at the site of Peter Krogh:
http://www.theDAMbook.com

Keyword selection function in Adobe Bridge CS3

Hello,
Does anybody know if and how I can change the "selection criteria" of keywords in Adobe Bridge CS3?
-> selection criteria: If I want to use the filter with the keywords, it selects the images which include any of the selected keywords (OR-function), but I would like to select only those images which have all of the selected keywords(AND-function).
Example: In a holiday folder named "italy", I want to see all pictures with the keywords "beach" and "me". What I get are all the "beach" images and all the "me" images. How can I change this?
Would be great if someone could help me...!
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In the Find box the Match drop down has 2 options. "If all criteria is met" is like "and" while "if any criteria met" is like "or" logic.

Lost Bridge CS3 keywords after upgrade to Leopard

So I have have spent many, many man hours assigning keywords to images in Bridge CS3. I then recently upgraded the computer from OSX Tiger to Leopard (not Snow Leopard).
I use Filters to get at the exact images that I am interested in previewing. The first indication that something is wrong is there is far too few hits for the filter I am executing. So I go into the whole image gallery and notice that the images that should have keywords no longer have them.
Also, attempting to add keywords now fails. I assign one, go to another image, come back and no keyword assignment, gone.
During the OS upgrade I saved all support files, including preferences. Those are there including some keywords from before but not all.
Does anyone know how I can recover the other keyowords and how I can get the new ones to stick?
Thanks so much, I am really shut down until I figure this out. My image Library is somewhere north of 35,000 images.

This happened to me too. I spent hours keywording my images, and now almost all of them are gone! Oddly enough some pictures still have keywords left on them, but most does not. I can still find images with keywords through spotlight, but Bridge seems to not notice that they are there.
Is there a way to manually make Bridge aware that these images does in fact have keywords?
Edit: I forgot to say that I just upgraded to Snow Leopard.

Adding keywords to MANY pictures with Bridge CS3?

Hi there,
I am adding keywords to over 10,000 pictures using Bridge CS3.
I'm copying the keywords from their respective sites and pasting them into the metadata fields in Bridge. (Also adding others if they are not included.) I'm also changing them to all lowercase in InDesign so they are not repeated/duplicated. (i.e. "People" and "people".)
There are many folders and sub-folders but they are all under one main folder.
Two questions:
1) Anyone know of a easier way to do this?
2) Is there a way to make the ("People" and "people") problem go away?
Mac OS X 10.5.5 Bridge CS3 2.1.1.9
Thanks.

Thanks again Jim
This was not the answer I wanted to hear. So I contacted Adobe directly- They are very quick- they responded within 24 hours via email of course and reiterated what you said- I guess I just needed "official" word from Adobe, before I went to plan B
Anyways If anyone ever has problems like this where you got a bunch of .m1v files and you need to tag them with metadata- I suggest to do what I am doing and download tmpegenc it is a great little piece of software that will convert your .m1v files to .mpg files that you can now tag within bridge, Beauty
I will NEVER export to .m1v AGAIN
Thanks TMPEG
Thanks Jim and Thanks Adobe
Best Wishes
Tony

Bridge CS3 keyword panel search window missing

I am running Bridge CS3 (version 2.0.0.975) on a WinXP desktop and a Win7 laptop. The search window on the keyword panel has disappeared on the laptop, but not on the desktop. I've looked through the Bridge preferences and don't see a setting that would control this, and I haven't found any context menu that would allow me to customize the panel. Can anyone tell me how to get the keyword search window back on my laptop?
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Terry

Im geting the same... I tried refreshing cache etc... but no avail...

Bridge CS3: location of keyword index ???

I know that Bridge stores the actual keyword(s) with the image files but where is the overall "index" located on my hard drive?
The index is the structure that gives the instant access through the images.
Thanks

That doesn't sound right to me.
My path wasn't quite correct it should have been
C:\Documents and Settings\User name\Application Data\Adobe\Bridge CS3
and the keywords are stored in
Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml
The cache files contain thumbnail data and these have to be rebuilt if image files are moved but the keywords stay with the image and are referenced by Bridge wherever the file is.
That is my interpretation and I fully agree that the workings of Bridge are not properly documented by Adobe. But don't expect things to improve: the rushed time-scales imposed by the marketeers mean that not only are new releases buggy, but the documentation is inadequate or non-existent. People that want to understand the program have to spend hours sifting through the Knowledge Base (that's a misnomer!) and assorted blogs to find out what's going on.
Welcome to the wonderful new world of user friendly Adobe.
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Keywords, iPhoto '08 and Bridge CS3

I've got a bunch of photos (10,000) with keywords added with Adobe Bridge CS3. When I import these into iPhoto (with "Copy items to the iPhoto library" checked/enabled), the keywords import.
But when I use iPhoto to add new keywords, these keywords do not get written to the file! They seem to exist only in the iPhoto database. And Spotlight keys off the actual file, so none of my newly added keywords are searchable in Spotlight, only the IPTC keywords on the file. Which is not what I want.
However, if I import a file to iPhoto that has no IPTC keywords on it, and then I add keywords with iPhoto, iPhoto will write these keywords to the file. So it appears that iPhoto won't write out IPTC keywords if the file already has them. That *****. Big time.
Does this mean that if I want to use iPhoto exclusively (abandoning Bridge CS3) to manage my photos etc that I have to somehow strip off all IPTC keywords and then re-import to iPhoto, and then re-tag all my 10,000 files with keywords? Please tell me there is an easier way.

Harper The Explorer
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
these keywords do not get written to the file! They seem to exist only in the iPhoto database
This is correct. You can write them to the file on export (File -> Export).
iPhoto is your photo organiser, so the idea is that you don't search in Spotlight but in iPhoto or in a media browser that hooks into iPhoto. Remember, if you're using iPhoto you can't really access the files via the Finder anyway.(* See Below for more)
You do need to choose between Bridge and iPhoto. They do the same job but surfing the iPhoto library with Bridge is one of the more common ways of damaging it.
However, if I import a file to iPhoto that has no IPTC keywords on it, and then I add keywords with iPhoto, iPhoto will write these keywords to the file. So it appears that iPhoto won't write out IPTC keywords if the file already has them.
I'm afraid that I'm not sure the point you're making. iPhoto will read the IPTC tags and add to them on export.
*There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:
For 10.5 users: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Apple-Click for selecting multiple pics.
To upload to a site that does not have an iPhoto Export Plug-in the recommended way is to Select the Pic in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export and export the pic to the desktop, then upload from there. After the upload you can trash the pic on the desktop. It's only a copy and your original is safe in iPhoto.
This is also true for emailing with Web-based services. If you're using Gmail you can use THIS
If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
Or, if you want to access the files with iPhoto not running, then create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use THIS
Other options include:
1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
Regards
TD

How do keywords work in Bridge CS3

Hello everyone,
I have a somewhat strange problem: I try to add keywords to non-Adobe files as to an Powerpoint file or an Openoffice file. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get an error message that Bridge is unable to save XMP-Data ... How does this XMP-Stuff work? Why do e.g. some Powerpoint files magically have the ability to store XMP data while others do not? Although this is not directly an issue of Bridge, I couldn't find much information about this metadata storage on those files somewhere else. Maybe someone here has an idea how to convince e.g. Powerpoint to save the .ppts in a way that they accept the keywords of Bridge.
Regards,
Rainer Jochem

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Sharing PSE7 Organizer keywords with Bridge?

I want to share my existing PSE7 Organizer keywords with Bridge. I searched the forums and found an some answers to use PSE7's "File/Write Keyword Tag and Properties Info to Photo" menu option. I did some tests with that option, and it appears to only do what I'll refer to as "additive writes," meaning it will add keywords in PSE7 Organizer for a particular photo, but it will not remove any keywords which are presently in the photo file but not in Organizer's informaton for the same photo file.
I'm guessing this is the case because PSE7 Organizer cannot assume the keyboard already in the file originally came from Organizer itself, or that the user (regardless of where an existing keyword came from) wants to remove a keyword if it's not in Organizer for the same file. It would be nice if there were a preferences option which one could select such as "Replace all keywords when writing to file" so that a user like myself could make Organizer's keywords the main keywords.
Does anyone happen to know if I understand this correctly, or is there a way to remove a PSE7 Organizer-written keyword from a file (based on its non-existence in PSE7 Organizer for the same file)?
If there is no way around this, I'm wondering if it may be better to do things the Bridge-way (which seems more like the general standard) since it seems to always keep the current info in the file, so the state is always with the file itself. Even if some features are missing, it may be better than dealing with this sort of PSE7-only feature. Any comments on this would be great to hear.
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Okay, that makes sense on the Albums. I wasn't aware that Albums were ordered.
I was using Bridge some more after my post yesterday, and I was seeing that with PSE7, both Albums and Keyword items seem more readily accessible regardless of location of the items (photo files) because there isn't an extensive file system search required since the DB provides a quick search (assuming first-searches and no pre-existing caching in Bridge).
I started testing Collections with Bridge, and realized that it was sort-of doing that. This is another aspect of Bridge which is sort of a "db" aspect of Bridge in that it requires the browser to persist data seperate from the photo file. .
What can be a little frustrating about any browser-persisted informaton (such as that for Collections) is to not find anything in the docs about how to ensure one gets a good backup of that info. PSE7 does a great job of providing a feature to do just that. Recall this is one thing I really liked about PSE7 when I was unaware of the benefits of Bridge's "minimalist db" approach (where a "db" in Bridge is anything persisted by itself such as Collections).
The "how to" backup app-persisted information (aside from docs a user saves, where the user knows the location) is a must for any pro-am or pro person, if not an end user. People don't want information that is key to something they're building over time to be persisted in some mysterious unknown location. I couldn't find what I wanted in Bridge docs, so I did my own hunting, and found Bridge Collection information hiding in "%APPDATA%\Adobe\Bridge CS4\Collections" (i.e., c:\Users\<user_name>\Roaming\Adobe\Bridge CS4\Collections" on my laptop) in files named "<collection_name>.filelist". But even with that info, I, as a user, would still have to test to ensure I could get a backup good enough for disaster recovery / restoration. I'm a relatively technical user so I cannot imagine what "Dad" or "Mom" would do. This sort of thing is bothersome only because it's remedied with at least a small paragraph in the docs. What would it take to say "Backing Up Bridge Information: If you have a backup program which backs up the "%APPDATA%\Adobe\Bridge CS4" you will have all necessary data to restore the information that Bridge maintains. You must ensure you backup your photo files..." etc. etc. Without that, I have to do a bunch of hunting and testing.
All that said, I see how Collections, maintained by Bridge, offer some of that PSE7 power where you don't have to search for files in various locations to find what is already noted in a central Bridge file or "db" such as a Collection for which Bridge has a list of files in the Collection itself. (If Collections could contain other Collections, that would be a nice touch. I didn't see that ability.)
What I still like about Bridge's approach is that while Albums don't exist, and while Collections are hierarchical, there's a feeling that Bridge is not taking things over where you are forced to use that app. It persists some items relating to its organizational features, but keeps the rest of the info right in the photo file. Still a nice balance. Another nice thing about this minimalist approach is that there's no importing per se. Everything is browseable/maintainable since the file system is the photo db.
All that said, I can see where PSE7 does things for the non-power user such that they can just use, say, an Album, which has a familiar name, and behaves like an Album with ordering and whatnot. A user like me doesn't need that since I can use tools to create an Album like effect, so the Bridge approach wins since I can fend for myself in areas were I don't see PSE7 to hand hold.

Problem importing keywords from bridge

I have a .mrw image that I use Bridge CS3 to add four keywords a,b,c,d. When I view them in Bridge it shows the four keywords checked. I looked at the XMP file with wordpad and see them there as well. When I import the xmp file under Lightroom only keywords a,b & c are shown. I looked at the .xmp file in the imported file location for light room and the d keyword is missing from it as well. I tried this using a .nef image from my nikon and it doesn't seem to have the problem
Has anyone seen this problem before? Any work around?

I've done some more investigation on the problem I've described above. In the xmp for the image I have a keyword written by bridge of "Sandy" with the upper case "S". In the lighroom keyword list I already had "sandy" with the "s" being lower case. The import of the "Sandy" keyword in the xmp file of my image failed. If I removed "sandy" or renamed it "Sandy" in the Lightroom list then "Sandy" imported fine. If I tried adding "Sandy" in addition to "sandy" in the lightroom list I got an error saying that the keyword existed and the add failed. From that test it appears that within Lightroom "Sandy" and "sandy" are the same keyword, but coming in on an import they aren't.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is it normal?

Metadata in Bridge CS3 lost after editing NEF file in Capture NX2

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It looks like all the problems are connected with renaming files in Bridge before editing them in Capture as if Bridge cannot read XMP after Capture added its own info in NEF file.

Bridge cs3 mac 2.1.1.9 will not append metadata

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I have been using the same metadata template for a year, and have updated to Bridge 2.1.1.9
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I have held the option key at Bridge startup , purged the folder cache, and checked the "Use Software rendering" option in preferences
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