Sharing music in a large church

other then home sharing with a limit of 5 computers, is there any way for an organization to share music as a group with more then 5 computers?

the sharing library between 5 computers is provided by itunes, that is ok to use right?
For personal use in your home, yes. In any sort of public or commercial environment, no, not with most commercial content. Again, the licensing when you purchase a CD or buy a track from any download store is for personal use only. Sharing in your home is generally acknowledged to be personal use, but sharing among a bunch of people in your church most definitely is not.
Again, for use in your church, you must have appropriate licenses obtained from the content owners to allow you to use their material before you can share any content that is not public domain. Without those licenses, it will not matter how you attempt to work around the limitations of iTunes, it just won't be legal.

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Heya David,
If you haven't already please update to 10.4.8. If issue persists then try the following:
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~/library/caches
~/library/preferences/com.apple.itunes.plist
~/library/prefernces/com.apple.iphoto.plist
~/library/preferences/com.apple.frontrow.plist
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In the Finder. I should have said "In the Finder, create the folder /Users/Shared/Music".
In case it wasn't clear, all of the instructions should be carried out in the Finder. iTunes should definitely not be running when you move your library and create the aliases.
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1. There's nothing significant about the folder location /Users/Shared/Music. You can substitute the name of any folder you want, provided all users will be able to read and write to it.
2. Beware of having two or more users accessing your shared Music library *at the same time*. (Since you mentioned you want to share your music between two users on a single MacBook, I assumed only one user would access the library at a time.) This only becomes an issue if at some time in the future you share a library in this way between two computers over a networked drive. If two or more users are making simultaneous changes to the same iTunes library, they will stomp all over each other's changes, and very likely corrupt the library. Note that it's also possible to corrupt your music library if you both are simultaneously logged in on your MacBook via "Fast User Switching", and are both simultaneousy running iTunes and making changes to the library. So don't do that. (Not that you ever would.)

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I have 2 accounts on my Windows XP Pro machine, both of which can see and utilise iTunes (though unfortunately, not at the same time - though this is another problem entirely). Both of these users iTunes accounts have been set so that they utilise the same 'shared' music folder. To do this, I have switched both users iTunes Music Folder Location to be:-
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This surely can't be right. Has anyone got a workaround for this?
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1- Re-copy your files to a known folder that is accessible from her account.
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3- At the "Choose Library or Create Library" prompt, select "Choose Library".
4- Navigate to where you put the "iTunes Library.itl" file from step #1.
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Hi Everyone,
I am new to this group, but couldn't find anywhere else to ask for help!! I have searched this database, but could not find an answer that worked for my problem!
I am PC based and have several computers all running windows 2000. They all have itunes running and are very happy to share the music. I just purchased a new HP machine running windows XP and cannot get Itunes on this machine to share its music, or see any of the other machines shared music. I have read various messages about setting port 5353 and have tried this but with no success, I completely disabled my firewall but still not success? Does anyone know why XP will not see the other computers shared music or share its music? I have tried sharing the directory (with the Itunes music)on the new machine but still no success! I can go into itunes on one of my other machines and "add folder" so that the other machine see's the directory on my new machine with all the music, but I would like to share the music via Itunes? Maybe I am being naive! but it works for 2000 why not XP?
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Thanks Rachyl,
The link was how to share files, I can do that, my problem is that the itunes programs on my XP machine will not speak to or listen to the itunes programs running on any other machine (mac or windows 2000). I would like to know how to get the XP machine to communicate with the other computers and then share its music.
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