Shipment Cost on Weight

I have a following scenario at client.
If the weight of a material is in between 1-10 ton than freight cost rate is $1000.
And if the weight tis 12 ton than system calculate freight cost $1000/10= $100*2 ton extra = $200 plus $1000 for 1-10 ton.
So total cost is $1200.
Looking for the gurus response.
regards,
IK

hi,
single shipment document with two differenct routes cannot be created.If you have any alternative do let me knw.
Further if i take your query as you want the cheapest route to be picked up in the shipment then:
you can have two common routes (this will serve the purpose of two different ways to reach the destination) from common shipping point and customer.
I mean you two ways to reach the same customer.
Now route has a different cost
eg. condition record as below:
Route 1 with vendor combination X (same vendors at both conditions)= Rs. 1000
Route 2 with vendor combination X (same vendors at both conditions) = Rs.1500
Once you go to VT01 end enter the vendor the system will pick up the cheapest route. For picking up the cheapest route you have to maitain exclusion in pricing procedure.You can maintain an exclusion as A (best between both of them).
If this is not your query then ignore.
regards
Ashutosh gupta

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Hi Guys
Unfortunately I do not think that you will get an answer now. Either your question is not simple or we do not know.
So in the interest of keeping the Forum tidy and easier to surf through could you please close your thread and either try one of the other forums or try another post. I do not think that most people will bother to look this far back anymore.
Sorry I cannot help as I would if I could.
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I need your valuable suggestion on how to create the Value based shipment cost.
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PORCELANOSA MM.
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Transfer the shipment costs into the condition types of the purchase order:
The shipment cost value (without tax amounts) is cumulated for all relevant shipment cost documents
for each service agent and transferred to a corresponding condition type of the purchase order item.
Before cumulation, the amounts are first converted into the purchase order currency.
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belong to the same condition type (in schema 'Manual') or also to different condition types (not
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item before the goods receipt. If delivery costs are expected from different service agents,
several non-valuated entries must be generated for this condition type. If more condition
lines exist than required, these are then no longer taken into account. If condition lines
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b) Automatic condition lines: If the condition lines are to be generated automatically for
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must have enough condition types to settle several service agents. If more condition lines
exist than required, these are then no longer taken into account. If condition lines are
missing, the last service agents are not settled.
- Advantage: The goods receipt can be carried out without manual preparation beforehand in
the purchase order.
- Disadvantage: You must define identical condition types with different names.
Message was edited by: PORCELANOSA MM

Hi,
If you refereed the OSS Note 427944 correctly it explains how the shipment cost can be transferred to delivery cost based on some pre-requisite.
Like the value for PO should be >0
Like the service agent is involved during shipment liability, then there should be cumulative transfer for each value which will update based on shipment cost if PO value is "0".
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Hellow,
Scenario:
Step1:
1. I created on PO and I did one inbound delivery with reference to PO.
2. Then i did inbound shipment, and shipment cost document.
3. Shipment costs calculated based on weight of the delivery material, Here Weight is 3 To with 300/- per TO.
Total amount is 900.
3. Then i did MIGO with reference to inbound delivery.
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Step2:
1. same way i did one more inbound delivery for open items
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May I know what's the condition type for the freight charges involved so that we could proceed to help you further.
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Minimum load calculation logic
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Change definition of condition types in work pricing procedure
hey all ,
we implemented the shipment cost module and now we have to make some changes
in working condition types because the requirements of the customer changed .
is it recomended and what are the effects of changing the definition of condition types
and by that changing working pricing procedures .
for example if i change condition type from D - wight, V - Volume F - Formula to T scale
( and makeing the properchanges in the scale ) or add some more condition the existing pricing
procedures ?
BR
ASA
Edited by: ASA MOKED on May 22, 2009 3:33 PM

hey and thanks for the reply ,
did you make changes in the definition of existing condition types ?
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In our S.C.C regular scenario the shipment cost is calculated according to the packing materials in the shipment ( VT02 ) .
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Hi Sudeer,
Once again please check the configuration steps
-->Define Shipment cost information profile
-->Assign planning profile
-->Also check the variants which you are maintaining in the planning profine.
-->Check the input data in the variants which you have maintained.
Go through this link about Shipment Cost Information in the Order
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/83/218ac8068a11d2bf5d0000e8a7386f/frameset.htm
I hope it will help you,
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Hi sap Gurus,
i defined scales for shipment costs (VS01) :
1) scale basis L4 (transportation zone of departure point)
2) scale basis L5 (transportation zone of destination point)
3) scale basis D (gross weight)
Then i defined a condition TYPE "ZB02" that has tridimensional scales (1-2-3) and i insert it in pricing procedure SDFC00 after FB00.
I defined a condition record, but when i do shipment cost the condition record is found by the system (in pricing procedure i see it) but it's red.
---> the system calculates only condition TYPE ZB01 that has bidimensional scales (gross weight & distances).
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any solution?
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This is due to not maintaining the condition record for that "ZB02" shipment cost condition type in TK11 transaction.
After assigning the scales to ZB02 you maintain the condition record for that condition type in TK11 transaction.
Before going to maintain the conditionrecord you make sure that you maintained access sequence to that condition type.
As per my advaice you no need to maintain scale basis for transaportation zones.
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Volume
Distance
Number of different means of transportation
Time (travel time or wait time)
Tariff zone (destination)
Destination region
If you want to maintain cost Transportation zone wise you can keep these fields in the condition table based on that you can create condition record.
For more clearence please go through this SAP help link it will help you about Shipment cost scales and condition record maintenance.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/28/53584348be11d385ed0000e81ddea0/frameset.htm
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali.
Edited by: Murali Mohan.Tallapaneni on Oct 24, 2008 11:34 AM

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Please clarify the scenario in detail so that i can help u to resolve the issue, say for example u want to calcuate the shipment cost based on weight or distance both scenario will have different implication in master data.
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1. Material master data ( Unit of measure & sales unit)
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3. Vendor Master records (in control tab specify the service agent procedure group)
4. check the condition types whether correct calculation type was maintained r not & must match with unit of measure in material master.
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6. check the transportation pricing procedure.
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