Short short range with airport extreme card

Hello,
my neighbour bought an Airport Extreme Card for his iBook, in order to connect (wireless) to my airport express base station. (our flats are adjacent). His mac is an iBook G4 with OS X 10.3.4
We installed the card, the airport software, but no network appeared in the network menu...
We had to move to my flat and take his iBook very close from the Airport Express Base Station... and then, we were able to connect. But the quality of connection was very poor.
The network works fine, my computer and the one of my Wife (a Mac and a PC) connect perfectly.
Do you have an idea of what could be wrong ?
Compatibility between the iBook and the card ?
Card with a defect ?
Software problems ?
Thank you a lot for helping.

Charles, Welcome to the discussion area!
Did you properly connect the antenna wire to the AirPort Extreme card? Look at the photos in KB 108039, Properly attaching the antenna on an AirPort Extreme Card. It can take more force than most people think to get the antenna wire properly connected.

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I'm experiencing very high latency on my MBP when connected using Wi-Fi in my living room and I believe this is a software bug.
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64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=1536.229 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=536.642 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3444.466 ms (DUP!)
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=2547.260 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=2671.552 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1671.272 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=2619.991 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=1619.350 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=2362.474 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=1362.662 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=363.461 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=1407.557 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=1020.437 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.254: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=119.570 ms
^C
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Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=4 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=2 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=3 ms TTL=64
Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=6 ms TTL=64
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Réponse de 192.168.0.254 : octets=32 temps=8 ms TTL=64
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Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
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SMC Version (system): 1.16f11
Serial Number (system): W874551DX91
Hardware UUID: 00000000-0000-1000-8000-001B63B19195
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Type: AirPort
Hardware: AirPort
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IPv4:
Addresses: 192.168.0.2
Configuration Method: DHCP
Interface Name: en1
NetworkSignature: IPv4.Router=192.168.0.254;IPv4.RouterHardwareAddress=00:07:cb:3e:04:ef
Router: 192.168.0.254
Subnet Masks: 255.255.255.0
DNS:
Server Addresses: 212.27.40.241, 212.27.40.240
DHCP Server Responses:
Domain Name Servers: 212.27.40.241,212.27.40.240
Lease Duration (seconds): 0
DHCP Message Type: 0x05
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Server Identifier: 192.168.0.254
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
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Wireless Card Type: AirPort Extreme (0x168C, 0x87)
Wireless Card Locale: Worldwide
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64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=3336.361 ms
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64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=1344.110 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=345.132 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=1191.119 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=3969.730 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=3992.111 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=3692.648 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=17 ttl=64 time=2927.634 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=2130.216 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=1437.424 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=2385.203 ms
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