Shortcut to close Keywording List

Does anyone know of a keyboard shortcut to close and open the Keywording list in the Library? I very often go from Keywords to Metadata and back and need to close and open the Keywords because the list is too long to scroll. I can't find seem to find this on the keyboard shortcuts list and using the Solo Mode only solves a part of the problem. Thanks for any help.

Actually this works throughout all Lightroom panels: count how many there are and use ctrl plus its number to toggle it open/closed or just bring it into scrolling focus.
Works in develop module, too.
The right hand panels are adressed by ctrl, the left-hand panels by ctrl+shift.
Cornelia

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CS4 Bridge short term memory "keyword list"

Greetings ,
I have a Mac G4 2002 with CS4 11.0.1 and I went through all my photos in one three day period and made keywords for the relevant image selections. I love the way it works. ..... BUT ! if I turn off the machine and later come back and open bridge to quick select my photo criteria for editing, my keyword list defaulted to the bridge example list that came with the system. I looked in Preferences and did not find a selection that seemed relevant.
I hope I am just being stupid, missing something simple like "Save As, keyword list under name ....?" The keywords are still associated with the picture files. I can get back all of the keywords by spending a few hours and clicking one by one on every image in storage. The list eventually builds itself up to it previous glory. But shut down and you get to do it all over again.
Thanks for your assistance !

Yes, I do shut my computer down the correct way by going to the apple menu first and using the shut down menu function, more anal than that I close the applications that are open first prior to going to the apple menu.
Thank you for the purge cache suggestions.
I did purge once the cache files and it made no change in behavior.
On your suggestion :
A: [ I proceeded by opening some photo folders and clicked on some images so that the list could build up again some ( I only did a few folders ).
Then I closed out of out of the application and the shut down. On booting back the OS and opening the application the list had still shrunk. ]
I then repeated "A" and but on bringing the application back up I used the "Option" key hold down so that I could purge Preference files. Shrunk again!
I tried the "purge cache for folder" option, and then Repeated "A" and the result was the same, shrunken list.
I did learn that I did not need to shut down the computer to loose the keyword list however, it goes away with just the closing of the application option.
I also learned that the list is not completely lost now, it defaults to a shorter list of my own words (at least now it does). That default shrunken list is consistent the last two times on re-starting the application.
I am wondering now if there had been some error made in how a list could be put together. Like did I screw up with hierarchy protocol somehow, or should we restrict our naming to a only a two tier system instead of using a three tier system?
From Bridge the suggestion keywords (ie: Mathew, New York, Paris) don't come up anymore. I don't have those images, but interestingly enough, I don't see those names coming up anymore.
Earlier I did try weeks ago to reload the Photoshop CS4 package onto my computer hoping that would solve this problem. One thing I did not do at that time was use "FIND" to search out where relative preference files might lay and then dump those in the trash prior to re-install. I don't know, maybe I have no option but to try that again but by dumping the preferences prior to install.
Since we did just try the "option key" on start of application, does this fully do the same thing?
Thanks again for your suggestions!

How can I move my keyword list from cs3 bridge into cs5 !

I am tring to move my keyword list from my old vista computer runnung CS3 into
my new windows 7 computer with CS5.

You should not have to do this. Keywords are stored on the image and should be there on both versions.
If one wants to moove the whole list and not wait for all the files to be re-indexed, it is is user/app data/roaming/adobe/bridge or something close to this.

Two Keyword lists

Hi,
I would like to create for the two languages I use for my keywords two different keyword lists in Bridge CS4 .
It would make things a lot easier, then to do it with one list and a undermenu - Is it at all possible ?
thanks for your help !
Martin

Don't know if it is possible at all but I also don't see the benefit of it
because you have only one Keyword panel. You can move this to another
location (at least in the three columns Bridge provides) and in an other
shape but it still remains one.
To me it seems more logical to create two sets with the same sub keywords in
different languages and nest the rest of keywords and subwords in those two
sets. You only need to click on the triangle in front of the top set to open
it and use this one or close the top set to get easy access to the bottom
set.
Maybe you might be able to create 2 different workspaces for this but that
is all I can think off this moment.
A last thought came up while rereading this answer and your post. It would
be better to create a keyword list with each keyword in both languages, less
work, no mistakes and international usable
It would make things a lot easier, then to do it with one list and a undermenu

How Can I Improve the Readability of the Keyword List?

I've often wondered if you guys actually test this stuff in real-world conditions.
This white-on-gray and gray-on-gray (!) micro small font stuff may be the cool du jour UI look and work great for you bloodshot-eyed youngsters beavering away 24/7 in the bowels of Adobe Developer Central on your supermax workstation screens, but for us bifocal challenged 50+y/o codgers on deadline working in the field on ruggedized laptops in sunlit conditions, this is not a very time inefficient UI.
The Keyword List is particular painful to use since there are no keyboard shortcuts and we're forced to click on these microscopically small squares and read the keywords in what must be a 2pt font.
Other than stretching the left-panel container max left (which isn't very far), Is there ANY WAY to make the Keyword List more readable?

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Excelent question.
I have been searching around, and it looks like a lot of users is asking this question.
Where can I make Siri learn my accent ? Some users was talking about a feature where you could correct Siri so it would learn, but I have not been able to find it.
Nor have I, but it does seem to get better as I go along, so maybe it learns.

Keywording/Keyword List tabs not showing in Library Module

The keywording & Keyword List tabs are not showing up in my library module on the right hand side. Also, I can't seem to use the Mac 'Command + K' shortcut to add a keyword. Have tried on photos that are both from my iphone (TIFF) as well as raw from my Nikon (NEF).
New to lightroom and have no idea what's up. Just noticed it today after having been working in the program for about a week now doing basic tutorials and stuff with lynda.com
Thanks!

Right-click one of the other panel headers and check the ones you want.

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Only when i go to a different browser (like IE) after i clear it , then all that shows up is the pages i visited in IE , that is what bugs me , why is IE browsing history sowing up in Firefox ??
Basically , i can clear the history in Firefox , and then for a example , go to Craigslist , using IE7 (launching it from a complete different Icon , in other words at that time i never open Firefox) , then after closing out , or even leaving open as it does not seem to matter , i go into Firefox , and hit History , and there is every place i visited in IE7 , on my History in Firefox

How can I copy keyword list to a new library

I'm a keyword fanatic. Keywords are my most favorite feature of the product. It's the reason I use iPhoto in the first place. I recently created a new iPhoto v6 library and can see that the keyword list did not get migrated. Is there a way to do this? Can I export and import the keyword list? Thanks.

gtigan
Keywords are kept in the main database file and when you create a new library, you create a new database.
The only way I can think of to what you want is to select a single pic and give it ALL the keywords, then use iPhoto Library Manager to move that pic from the old library to the new one. iplm is the only way to move pics and metadata between libraries while using v6. (hmm, another reason to upgrade.)
And, as I mentioned in my other post, if you're a "keyword fanatic" then check out Keyword Manager
Regards
TD

Export and Import a Keyword List

Yesterday I exported the keyword list and then acted on the suggestion from LightroomSecrets site to 'organize' while it is in text format. This went very well using a text editor.
The IMPORT doesn't overwrite the existing list. It merges INTO the list.
So now I'm still scrolling up and down collecting the keywords that are stand alone to undo and then put a checkmark beside the subkey in a category. I would have been wiser to have reorganized a few and repeated the export,import <grin>
If keywording is promoted as such an important feature and a main item for management in Lightroom then, it would seem to me that the 'LIST' itself could have been designed in a more efficient manner...Such as : a right click menu...or a browse and choice to move to...
I suppose the architects of this list assumed users would have their keywording planned out ahead of time. Never assume <grin> I've only now (V1 to V3.4.1) got my head around the category concept so much reorganization required. Scroll up and down and zoom past the category wanted....not an exercise I can stay with for long periods of time <LOL!>
Rose

gtigan
Keywords are kept in the main database file and when you create a new library, you create a new database.
The only way I can think of to what you want is to select a single pic and give it ALL the keywords, then use iPhoto Library Manager to move that pic from the old library to the new one. iplm is the only way to move pics and metadata between libraries while using v6. (hmm, another reason to upgrade.)
And, as I mentioned in my other post, if you're a "keyword fanatic" then check out Keyword Manager
Regards
TD

How do I migrate my exhaustive keyword list from my previous version of PS, CS5 to CS6?

I upgraded to PS CS6 and failed to export the exhaustive keyword list I had created by adding personal keywords to the "Controlled Vocabulary Keyword Catalog" I was using in CS5. I thought I'd be able to open my previous version of CS5 to export that catalog, but every attempt to open PS CS5 or the Bridge CS5 defaults to CS6.
I would love to go back and open my previous version to export that catalog rather than trying to recreate it from a new Controlled Vocabulary Keyword Catalog download.
Thank you in advance for any help you may provide.

Thank you for your help, but I found a file called Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml that only contained the default keywords that are contained in the startup version of PS. I didn't find the exhaustive list that I created in CS5 Bridge. Is there another place that I could find that entire list including the heirarchy?
Or is there a way to open the old version of Adobe PS Bridge CS5?
Thanks Curt Y

Should I Avoid LR4 and Get LR3 Because of My Huge Hierarchical Keyword List?

I abandoned LR2 several years ago because it crashed from my hierarchical list of 12,000 keywords. (Botanical and common names and other terms.) I have been using CS5/Camera Raw/Bridge to manage and edit my images. The hierarchical list is necessary for my stock photo business.
I will soon be needing to compare and edit images for a book publication and gallery show and I am thinking I may need to return to LR so I can work more effciently. I do not care about not exporting some keywords or synonyms etc. I think (right now anyway) that it is fine that all keywords associated with the images get exported for my stock submissions. I ususally check off only the sub-keywords or sub-sub-sub keywords.
Here are my questions:
1) Is LR 3 able to handle my huge list of hierarchical keywords which is now larger than 12,000 words?
2) Should I upgrade to LR3 and not to LR4 to avoid the keyword mess I have been reading about but don't understand very well?
3) Is it possible to even upgrade to LR3 now that LR4 is released?
3) Would LR4 handle my keywords better or worse than LR2? Than LR3?
4) Is there a work efficiency reason to upgrade to CS6 without using any version of LR and continue using Bridge and Camera Raw as I have been?
5) Is there anything else I have not thought to ask? I am somewhat technically challenged and dread learning new software, having been burned in the past with ExpressionsMedia disaster and LR2 which crashed etc.
Thanks for any and all input from the forum!

I try to answer your questions. I also have a large list of hierarchical keywords (funny ... also botanical names) but not as much as you have.
1) I think that Lr3 is able to handle your list of keywords. I have not heard from anybody that there is a limit to the number of keywords that Lr is able to handle.
2) There seem to be some keyword issues in Lr4. My keywords were perfectly fine in Lr3 but after upgrading to Lr4 some of my keywords were not populated, meaning that the keywords themselves were listed in the keyword list but the image count showed 0. I still have my Lr3 catalog so was able to check (with Lr3) that, indeed, in Lr3 all the keywords in question were populated with the correct number of images. Fortunately there were not too many of these not-populated keywords, so I corrected the issue manually.
Since correct keywords are mandatory for your stock business, you are right in hesitating to upgrade to Lr4. In my opinion, the improvements that Lr4 offers over Lr3 are mainly in areas that are - probably - not so important to a stock business: improvements in the Develop Module and new Process Version, the Book Module, the map Module. On the other hand I would think that image management is paramount for you and in this area Lr4 is not much different than Lr3.
3) You will not be able to get an upgrade to Lr3 from Adobe now that Lr4 has been released. So you had to find a 3rd party vendor (B&H? Amazon?) who still sells Lr3.
4) Apart from the issue described above, I don't see any difference in keyword handling between Lr3 and Lr4. Lr2 is too far back for me - I don't remember.
5) My suggestion for you would be: You have to upgrade at some point. The longer you wait, the more difficult the transition will be because the differences of future versions to Lr2 will become greater. Since at the moment version 4.1 is in the works (there have been two RCs (Release candidates) of version 4.1 already), maybe it would be wise to wait until the final 4.1 version is out. maybe the keyword issues have been fixed.
6) You can "upgrade" to Lr4 and still have Lr2 on your system. All the Lr versions are stand-alone versions, not "plug-ins" for the previous versions. So you can have two (or more) different Lr versions on your system. So I would suggest that you upgrade to Lr 4.1 (once this version is out) but leave Lr2 on your system. When you Lr4 you will be asked if you want to upgrade your Lr catalog to Lr4 and you have the option of saving the Lr4 catalog as a different file, so that your Lr2 catalog is still available for Lr2 (Lr2 will not be able to work with the Lr4 catalog!). That way, if anything is amiss in Lr4 you can go back to Lr2 and work from there.

Keyword List doesn't show the correct images when clicked

I'm using LR 2.3RC on a Windows Vista Ultimate PC, although the same error occurs on LR2.2.
I have a keyword structure "Karl > Family > People" with Karl having 33 images with this keyword. When I use the "Keyword List" on the right panel in the Library module to display these images I get over fourteen thousand images in the grid! This doesn't happen when I use the "Library Filter" bar above the grid.
What gives?

Don,
the result of clicking on "Karl" should display 33 images in total. In fact I'm getting 14,589 of a possible total of 14,734 in the catalogue. This hardly a limitation, rather the opposite I would say!
John

Bug with Lightroom 4? - Big problem in the keyword list!!

Hello guys,
I am Rafael Rojas, a nature and landscape photographer. This is my first post, trigered by a quite bothering problem I am having with my LR...So hello everybody!
I upgraded to LR 4 a week ago. Today I realized many of the keywords I have installed in Lightroom do not appear on the keyword list (basically all keywords after the letter S). Moreover, half of the keywords which appear on the list are not editable: that is, I cannot assign them to the selected image (by clicking on the left box), or I cannot double click them or right click them to get the Edit panel. All the rest of keywords (those which appear on the list on top), can be edited and there is no problem.
When I export the keywords as a .txt file (in metadata, export keywords) I can see that all the keywords are there. When I try to write some of them on the box LR recognize them and adds them automatically. However, I just cannot see them on my keyword list or just cannot edit them.
The reason I want to edit the keywords is because many of them got desactivated while upgrading (something more people have reported). Right now, I cannot send my images to my stock galleries, since many of my important keywords are not active, and I just cannot edit them...
Can you help me please?
thanks so much!!
rafael

Well, 64 bits.
And yes, it seems when I erase one keyword, the list "shows" one more below...so it seems the problem is related to a certain limit in number.
That would be still a problem I could live with, the big problem tough is that many of the keywords got "deactivated" alone by Lightroom (see problem here described http://www.backyardsilver.com/2012/02/strange-behavior-with-capitalized-keywords/) and that means I NEED to edit some keywords which are really important and which are not active. Otherwise, when I export the images those keywords are not embedded...
Any thoughts?
Rafa

I can't import keyword list into Aperture

I want to import a big keyword list from last years photo library into this years, but when I export the keyword list from my 2012 library it's greyed out and won't import into my 2013 library. The Aperture help says it should work just fine, any tips on what I / Aperture / Apple are doing wrong here greatly appreciated: I have a big family keyword list which I don't want to have to recreate from scratch!
Thanks all, James

You are welcome, James! Thanks for the virtual flowers and chocolate!
Very pretty!
Léonie

Use a keywords list as a source for an autocomplete list?

Is this possible? I have a large keyword list that has been developed over a long period of time. I want to be able to autocomplete when I start typing, based on the keywords list. The list has become very difficult to quickly navigate in the keyword panel. Thoughts?

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