Should I apply this BIOS update

My Toshiba Service Center shows BIOS 6.10 update released 10-29-2012.
Present version is 1.30 with release date 4-26-2012.
Should I apply this BIOS update?
Toshiba Satellite P875-S7200 / Windows 7

If I were you, Niki, I would NOT apply the BIOS update unless you are having some kind of problem that you think a BIOS update will cure. Don't try to fix something that ain't broke!!! In this case, most of the changes from your version 1.30 to the 6.10 version have to do with Windows 8, not the Windows 7 you are using.
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Govindan Sharanji: Let us check the BIOS version of your notebook.
Govindan Sharanji: Please open System Information by clicking the Start button. In the search box, type System Information, and then, in the list of results, click System Information.
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Govindan Sharanji has disconnected.
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We all know that old say... "If it is not break, don't fix it". And if you put it into more informatic terms, "specially if it is a BIOS".
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PS141E
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+"Human error is inherent to humans, and it is not possible to erradicate. It will allways appear, sooner or later" (Prof. James Reason).+
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{color:#0000ff}*BEEEEEEEEEEEEP... BEEEP... BEEEEP...*{color}
OMG! I never espected something THAT bad. 3-1-1!
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*(4)* Let Toshiba lead me to a path I didn't want to walk, just because of their offer of "increased functionality".
*(5)* Beleave in Toshiba when they said "relatively simple operation and can be carried out by most competent computer users"... they never said it is failproof.
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{color:#0000ff}*"What went wrong?"*{color}
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GOOD! Or not?
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13/05/2002 15:25 378,175 launcher.exe
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3 dirs 9,404,600,320 bytes libres
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"README.TXT 01-31-2003 CDC
Flash BIOS version 1.40 for Satellite 1410
This BIOS is applicable to the following models:
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Satellite 1410-S106
Satellite 1410-S173
Satellite 1410-S174
Satellite 1410-S175
Satellite 1410-S176
Satellite 1415-S105
Satellite 1415-S106
Satellite 1415-S115
Satellite 1415-S173
Satellite 1415-S174
Satellite 1415-S175
Satellite 1415-S176
Satellite 2410-S203
Satellite 2410-S204"
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I thought "well, it must be another archive..."
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2 dirs 9,402,793,984 bytes libres
No readme file...
Then another question arised in my mind: What about the other 1.40 file? What does the other 2410A9V140.EXE have inside?
This:
El volumen de la unidad D no tiene etiqueta.
El n£mero de serie del volumen es: 8838-E175
Directorio de D:\Shared\diskette\comparacion_toshiba\askiris\241 0a9v140
06/05/2009 00:46 <DIR> .
06/05/2009 00:46 <DIR> ..
*{color:#0000ff}09/01/2003 09:32 _250,663 _BIOFCA9T.COM{color}*
17/07/2002 03:38 35 biosupd2.ini
13/07/2001 13:22 6,277 chgbios2.vxd
*{color:#0000ff}08/10/2002 04:26 _30,697 _CHGBIOSA.EXE{color}*
09/11/2001 09:14 134 clean2.reg
17/07/2002 03:35 342,064 install2.exe
16/07/2002 06:55 241,664 nchgbios2.exe
18/08/2001 11:41 3,435 nchgbios2.sys
23/10/2001 18:55 11,476 nchgbios2NT.sys
26/08/2001 09:00 49,152 nchgbios2svc.exe
13/07/2001 17:05 49,152 tbdecode.dll
14/03/2002 06:42 49,152 TCHGBIOSInfo.dll
21/06/2002 11:25 1,796 tosclean2.bat
09/11/2001 12:01 967 tosclean2.pif
21/06/2002 11:34 1,841 toscleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 11:44 1,796 toscleanSMS2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,038 tosntclean2.bat
21/06/2002 08:51 2,084 tosntcleanAUTO2.bat
21/06/2002 08:52 2,038 tosntcleanSMS2.bat
20 archivos 1,046,461 bytes
2 dirs 9,402,781,696 bytes libres
*{color:#ff0000}They both have 20 files, and 1,046,461 bytes. I asumed they are both the SAME file{color}*.
And the readme file does not list the model 1410-604 in its readme file, therefore I cannot explain this except as a mistake from Toshiba. *{color:#ff0000}They put an incorrect BIOS in their website, and suggested the update, and somehow leaded to this kind of errors.{color}*
(Except in the case that one of those models is a different name of the 1410-604 model, and if it is the case... now I don't know why this BIOS do not work with this computer).
The worst part is that neither of those other files (V1.10, 1.20 and 1.30) lists the 1410-604, therefore there seems no possible workaround for this problem. I need an original v1.20 for this CMOS, and Toshiba seems not to have it. They offered me to solve the problem, by leaving the notebook at an ASP, and paying only 95€ for the work and about 280€ for a motherboard replacement, I will get it solved. But they offer no warranty of their possibilities because is a model 'too old' and 'discontinued' and with 'no support'...
In other words, they said "don't bother with this, just go out there and buy a new one" (something absolutely out of my scope in this crisis-time) :P
Thank you for reading soooo far.
Now what I need is to get any ideas of a workaround for this, my ideas are:
(1) This CMOS has a boot-part that still works (it allows a roll-back if you have the appropriate file). So I need a good BIOS to burn into the CMOS, from the VERY SAME model (a BIOS backup) but the backup must be adequate for the burning program (CHGBIOSA.COM).
(2) It is still possible that the BIOS could be OK but the data on the CMOS got somehow corrupted. If so, clearing the CMOS could solve de problem. But I was not able to find a clear cmos button from outside, and after disasembling I took of the battery, with no good results. I have to try leaving the MOBO without battery for longer period (I left it about 20 seconds) just in case 20 seconds don't allow all the capacitors to fully go to zero values. I have not much hope in this point.
(3) Try to get a REAL good update from Toshiba. I contacted several times technical support, and I was able to verify they are only phone-operators, with a script in front of them, and when the problem goes-out-of-scope they fall always in the same answer: "you have to go to an ASP". I still have a low hope to find someone who really knows a bit, and could enlighten with a good BIOS to put in this disks.
(4) As far as I could find, this BIOS is not from any known BIOS-maker. It seems it has been developed by Toshiba (own brand), therefore the Crisis Recovery Disk from Phoenix will not be of any help here. As well as any other BIOS recovery tool not designed for Toshiba's BIOS. But I'm open to any ideas, that could be tested more or less safely. (Remember that the 'BIOS-BOOT-PART' feature is still working, I don't want to loose this only possibility of redemption).
Wwwaaaaoooowww... what a long-post falks! Sorry for that!
Forgive me, but I wanted to be really clear.
Should anyone give some hints or advice, will be greatly appreciated.
Please don't say what I shouldn't do... I already know that. I already researched and already found my mistakes, in order not to repeat them. Now I need to move on, to advance, and to try to solve this, or at least learn how to solve similar things. As much as possible.
Thank you again, in advance, and sorry again.
FenixDigital
Message was edited by: Fenix_D
Changed subject to beter reflect what is the matter about (apparently erroneous BIOS file in Toshiba download center).

Well. 
 
It's not dead, certainly. 
 
The steps that I put in my procedure were: 
 
--> There are two memory sims, that I am going to identify as M1 and M2 
--> There are two memory banks, that I am going to identify as A and B 
 
Next step in order to identify if there are some module or bank that is not working properly are: 
 
The modules were installed as: 
 
M1 --> A 
M2 --> B 
 
1--> Boot without any memory chip. 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> X 
</blockquote>
 
2--> Boot with ONE module 
 
<blockquote>
A-->M1 
B-->X 
</blockquote>
 
3--> Boot with the OTHER module 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> M2 
</blockquote>
 
4--> Boot with BOTH modules swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> M2 
B--> M1 
</blockquote>
 
5--> Boot with ONE module swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> M2 
B--> X 
</blockquote>
 
6--> Boot with the OTHER module swapped: 
 
<blockquote>
A--> X 
B--> M1 
</blockquote>
 
At this point I got a great difference. It booted, finally. But in order to make a diagnostic, I have to complete the full test, and the results were: 
 
1--> Boot without any memory chip. 
 
A--> X 
B--> X 
 
NOT BOOTING Actually the computer not even tries to read the disk. Only the power led turns on, but even prior to press the 'on/off' button. I think this indicates 'no memory installed'. I would have expected a post failure beeps, but there were no beeps at all. 
 
2--> Boot with ONE module 
 
A-->M1 
B-->X 
 
BOOTED NORMALLY Well. This obviously means that the 3-1-1 beep code means memory error, or one bank failing of two installed. Now I didn't know if the problem was the module, or the bank B. 
 
3--> Boot with the OTHER module 
 
A--> X 
B--> M2 
 
NOT BOOTING Just like the condition in 1. Like no memory installed, therefore there are two possibilities: The bank B is not working, or the memory module M2 is not working. 
 
4--> Boot with BOTH modules swapped: 
 
A--> M2 
B--> M1 
 
NOT BOOTING Just like previous to test condition. Beep code 3-1-1, no boot at all. 
 
5--> Boot with ONE module swapped: 
 
A--> M2 
B--> X 
 
NOT BOOTING This was the important test, because it finally let me determine that the problem is at the module 2 (M2) not at the bank B. But still there could be a failure IN THE BANK B and IN THE MEMORY MODULE 2. Have to do the other test. 
 
6--> Boot with the OTHER module swapped: 
 
A--> X 
B--> M1 
 
BOOTING NORMALLY This really confirmed there is nothing wrong with ANY bank, but one of the modules is not working, actually is not being even detected. This is quite weird, because this computer was working perfectly with those two modules, and in the moment of the BIOS upgrade it seems to fail... How come? 
 
Something weird happened here. I don't know what, but something ruined one memory module (fortunately only one), what I would like to know now is what happened. But at least I have the machine running, with very low memory, but running. 
 
What I am thinking now is what about this BIOS upgrade makes the motherboard not to recognize one of the modules for some reason? 
 
<img class="jive-emoticon" src="images/emoticons/happy.gif" border="0" alt=":)" /> 
 
I will continue my research, but certainly the memory made the difference. 
 
I am not sure why I didn't discover this before, I think I didn't perform this test before, for two reasons: 
 
(1) I tried to boot with no memory, and this was impossible, so I assumed that the problem was not at the memory. 
 
(2) When I heard the beep code (3-1-1), somewhere I read it was a video problem, and I asume most probably it was a video problem (since no video at all was being displayed) but I should have take into consideration that Phoenix BIOS also means with the same 3-1-1 a DMA problem (memory problem). 
 
Okis... It's a pitty having to wait so much between a post and it's approval. I posted my answer two days ago, and since it didn't appear, I believe It didn't upload, so I replied again, and also didn't appeared... until now. It is obvious that a moderator approval is required. That's why I have to wait 24 hours or more to read my post. This slows this forum effectiveness. 
 
Thank you very much for your help. I'll keep you informed. Until we get to a final diagnosis and solution.

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Hello,
I've recently got a new laptop, a L650-1CN,
I run the various kinds of software from Toshiba, and one of them is Tempro,
It shows me messages when a new update is available.
Today I got saw the message that a new BIOS update v.1.80 was available.
I downloaded it, and installed it. After installing my laptop shut down. Then I booted it again.
But after a few minutes I noticed that my touchpad didn't disable itself anymore.
I usually use a logitech wireless mouse.
Now I'm wondering if I should do a system recovery and not install this BIOS update, or find another solution to fix this. Because it's really annoying.
Thanks in advance.

Hi buddy,
Usually the touchpad disable it automatically if an external mouse is connected but only if you enable this option in touchpad settings.
I also use an external mouse from Logitech and have activated this option. You can find it in control panel > mouse. Go to tab Device Settings and mark the option Disable internal pointing device when external USB pointing device is attached.
I hope it works :)

V570 Bios update (Windows 8)

Can I use this Bios update file for the v570 in Windows 8? It only lists up to Windows 7 in operating systems.
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS027341
Also is this the correct MD5 for the Bios update:
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Hi
The bios should be updated in windows 7 only and shouldn't be updated in any other os other than windows 7.
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Simple question:
I have a Equium L40 PSL49E laptop with Vista. There is a BIOS update available - but only for models with Modelnumber PSL48x, PSL49x, PSL4Bx or PSL4Cx.
So, my question is: Does that include my model?
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Yes, the update is compatible with your notebook. I have also checked the Toshiba website for the PSL49E and I can see this BIOS update.
PSL49x means that this update is compatible with all models that start with PSL49

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Hello
I was looking at the 1.60-WIN BIOS update available on the download pages since 25/03/08.
Anybody know what the update does?
The explanation on the download page just says: +"This Bios Update adds increased functionality to your system."+
Thanks in advance.

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I wonder is it possible to force (hack) the CPU to accept low voltages like couple of years ago pencil tricks worked nicely.. or custom code for the halt command...

Express bios update last status i failed

i have sccm 2007 and clients win 7 64 bit, on two clients win 7 64 bit, in advertised programs last status of express bios update (HP) is failed, but the bios install succesfully, when the bios upgrade from advertised programs computer reboot and bios
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Yes, I know this is an old post, but I’m trying to clean them up.
When you applied the BIOS update, Did it reboot the computer without telling CM07?
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Bios Update Fail - Under Warranty but No Support

Hi,
New to the board and looking for some help. I have a w500 still in warranty. We have been having issues with running Vista and the machine not rebooting after hibernation. Today I found some time to run updates using the pre-loaded ThinkVantage software on the machine. There were quite a few on there including a Bios update... upon running the updates and the machine restarting at the end, I get a black screen.... and nothing... the power lights are on but not more.
I have called Lenovo tech support and they advised me that because I did the Bios update (as part of the many updates that were suggested I required) I have voided my warranty support for this problem.... apparantly I was made aware of this as part of the disclaimer prior to running the updates!!!
Does anyone have any suggestions on steps forward from this point?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

In there you have the old bios versions : http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-74858#version
NO!!! Don't install that update (assuming the installer allows you to do that.)
That link is to the BIOS update for the ThinkPad W510 No wonder your machine may fail to boot correctly after installing that.
You want to create a bootable CD with the latest BIOS for the ThinkPad W500 which can be found at http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-70354 There are links to earlier versions of the BIOS for the W500 at the bottom of that page as well, if you want to go back to the original version delivered out-of-the-box, but there's no real reason to do that.
Booting from a CD is probably the safest method of updating the BIOS, since it does only that update without interference from any other updates or software (Lenovo's system Update should really only allow BIOS updates to be installed separately from other updates). However, I don't know what happens when the updater finds that the existing BIOS on the machine is for another machine type (W510), assuming you've already tried installing the wrong update referenced in the posting above.

K8N Neo4/SLI Bios Update for a Newbie

This is the first MSI motherboard that I've bought and I love it. I've been wanting to upgrade to the latest bios, but I'm not entirely sure which one to get. I have the MSI K8N Neo4/SLI board, but when I go to the downloads section to get my bios update, I don't see my motherboard listed. I only see K8N Dimamond, K8N Platnium, and K8N SLI. http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php?kind=1&CHIP=Socket%20939%20(AMD%20K8)&ID=2 Which one of these would work on my motherboard, or would none work? If none of these work, where can I find one that will work?
Also, how is this bios update applied? Is it applied in Windows or through a floppy disk? Are there any recommendations over one or the other?
Any help in the matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

If you fill out your specs in your sig, we can see what you have. You'll probably find your board at the US site here
Also, no need to risk disaster in a bios flash if all is well. There are many stickys on this site re: flashing. It probably needs to be trimmed up a bit .
There are three ways to flash the bios. One is somewhat risky (floppy), another safe (ramdrive), and the last can be unpredictable (LiveUpdate).
I highly recommend the ramdrive or ntfs method as described here
EDIT: another good item to have on hand before you try this is the BIOS SAVIOR
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