Should I flash the bios? K8T NEO FIS2R

Ok... I have a K8T NEO FIS2R mobo. A couple of friends of mine have been telling me to flash the bios to the most current version... Then some other people have been telling me that it is too risky and I should hold off untill something goes wrong that I know a bios flash can fix...
I'm just wondering what is the concencious here... should I flash it, or should I stay with the current version I have now(the one that came with the mobo) I Like to have my computer as up to date as possible, but all the reports of bad flashes have me a little worried. This is a procedure that I have never done before, and I dont want to mess it up.
If I should flash, Any insight, tips, tricks, special instructions, etc... would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks!
Magnum

Thanks guys for the quick responces... I'm used to not getting a responce from forums for 12-24hrs and here it is less than 24hrs later and I have 10 responces.
I'm not at my computer in question right now, but I am almost positive that my bios is ver1.0. Same one that came with my mobo.
At this point I am leaning towards flashing... If basically the only way to mess it up is to have my power fail, then I dont think I will have a problem. I'll just borrow an UPS from work here to be on the safe side.
hypothetically if i follow the instructions to a tee(windows flash/live update) are there any other ways it can mess it up? I just want to get a hold on all the places where I could mess it up.
Will live update take me all the way through the procedure, or do I need a separate set of instructions to read off of during the flash?
Also what gear will I need... floppy disk? anything else?
Sorry about all the questions, just want to make sure I do this right the first time!
Thanks!
Magnum

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http://www.bios-chips.com/e/bios-boot-cd.htm

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Hans
My Set up is as follows (from the top of my head as I am doing this form work)
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I wont to try flashing my bios from dos. Have created a boot disk and copied the latest bios onto this.
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Setting CC to auto should not damage a disk, unless OC'd.
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