Should I purchase ATI Radeon 5770 vs. ATI Radeon 5870?

I'm using CS5 to do focus stacking (2-3GB files) doing a lot of free transform/opacity changing to match layers underneath and also moderate video editing in Final Cut.
I want to upgrade my graphics card (currently have the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120) and was wanting some input as to the ATI Radeon 5770 or the ATI Radeon 5870? Is the 5870 overkill for these applications? Will I see much improvement in smooth anchor point movement? Running dual monitors out of the DVI and mini display port (s).
Thanks

Outside your budget? Quadro 4000 could potentially do more if CS5 Mercury Engine plug-in is being used or off load and use CUDA.
Trouble is you can't (easily) have 5870 and Quadro 4000.
$449 seems an awful lot for 5870 today, (PC 5870s are now less than Apple 5770). PC Quadro 4000 go for $750 instead of $1195.
One reason why - (there are threads here, too)
http://terrywhite.com/techblog/archives/6795
http://forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com/2011/01/which-graphics-card-to-use-for-pre miere.html
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/11/nvidia-brings-fermi-quadro-4000-kickin g-mostly-screaming-to-mac.ars
The chart here gives some good test numbers on 5770 vs 5870 vs 4000
http://www.barefeats.com/wst10g9.html
Barefeats: GT120 vs others -
http://discussions.apple.com/messageview.jspa?messageID=12370032&stqc=true
http://www.bing.com/search?q=CS5ATI+5870+MacPro
http://www.bing.com/search?q=CS5Quadro+4000+MacPro
bottom line: yes, the 5870 from purely performance level.

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Hit an issue with my 2006 Mac Pro when the video card died in late October. At that point I was running Lion and had kept on top of software updates. Being on a restricted budget, I have purchased and installed an ATI Radeon 5770 card from the Apple store as I cannot afford a new Mac Pro. I knew that before I did this there may be incompatability problems with this card and Lion on the older Mac Pros, and this seems to be the case.
However, having trawled through the forums it seems some users are able to run this card on 1.1 machines with Lion. So I am now wondering if I have another issue - I'd much rather stick with Lion if I can rather than revert to Snow Leopard. Now I have installed the card things seem fine with the display - the 30" cinema display no longer has blocks of pixels all over it. On boot up the screen is a pale grey, the Apple logo appears in the centre with the busy timer underneath. I also get a loading bar for about 20 seconds. This gets to about 20% then disappears. Everything sounds like the machine is booting normally but it just won't progress beyond this point. I have tried holding shift to boot it in safe mode but the same things happens.
If anyone can help point me in the right direction of what I should try next I'd be profoundly grateful!
Vinny

I knew that before I did this there may be incompatibility problems with this card and Lion on the older Mac Pros,
Although some users have complained of problems, their wounds may be self-inflicted. Use of a non-Apple ATI 5770 or failure to upgrade to at least 10.6.5 are high on the list. The main "issue", if you can even call it that, is the card runs more slowly than its published benchmarks due to PCIe 1 slots in the Mac Pro 1,2 and 2,1.
I also get a loading bar for about 20 seconds. This gets to about 20% then disappears.
That progress bar is indicative of unresolved Hard Drive problems. You need to boot to an alternate source of software (Hold Command-R at startup for Recovery_HD if you are running later than 10.6.8) and check the SMART Status and then select Macintosh_HD or whatever you renamed it and ( Repair Disk ). Repeat until all problems are resolved or it gets stuck. If you need help, copy the EXACT error message back here.

ATI RADEON 5770 on Mac Pro 2006

Hello,
I am using a MacPro 1.1 (from 2006) and out of the blue my video card which was Geforce 7300GT burned out. I can't find a replacement card which is the same and only combatible one I found is Ati Radeon 5770. Before I move on buying this card I am wondering whether it will work first of all on my mac pro, and if so which exact model should I purchase since I see some differences in each one as far as the memory bus (4800Mhz, 5200 Mhz and 1200 Mhz) and the processor clock speed ( 850 Mhz and 875 Mhz) I would really appreciate some help on this matter since it's already 2 weeks I am trying to solve it.
Thanks!

Well, thank you for that.
If you are lucky or willing, the link I have for 1st gen 8800GT model on ebay. Pricey as can be though.
Also:
http://myworld.ebay.com/macvidcards/
Hopefully 5770s are waiting for drivers or to be replaced with Radeon 6xxx series (but which would then require more retooling of drivers you can be sure).
Last year this time, the 5000's were just coming out. Nvidia was also inbetween the FERMI (GeForce 400s) and older GTX 200 series which caused shortages and when you could find anything, inflated pricing.
When I bought the 8800GT I also picked up ($129) OS X DVD 10.5.6 (had I guessed, I would have waited for Snow Leopard @ $29 maybe). And, you have to call but 10.5.x DVDs can be ordered by phone Apple Store but not online (another peeve, it is almost impossible to buy Leopard now, the last that supports PowerMacs too).
At least the Apple variety of ATI Radeon work in any and all Mac Pro models.
If there is a way to flash or work with PC cards, that would come from MacRumors Mac Pro.
http://forum.netkas.org/
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1

ATI Radeon 5770 w 2008 MacPro 3,1

I recently had my GeForce 8800 go bad on me. And after some research I plunked for the ATI Radeon 5770 (bought from here on the Apple Store).
I have a Dell 24" 2804WP LCD monitor, and am using the DVI port.
Before my 8800 went belly-up, I had ZERO problems with my monitor.
But now, since I've installed the ATI 5770, the monitor often "blacks out", and gives me this error message:
When I log-in via ScreenSharing (from my MacBook) and I see that there are not displays detected:
In fact, I get this same "non-display" configuration even when the monitor is "working."
Is this a driver thing? How do I go about troubleshooting this?
Any ideas?

The message you are seeing on screen is generated by the display, not by the Mac.
The Mac does not use custom Drivers for any display. Instead, it uses a highly-parameterized Driver that is customized by the reported capabilities of the Display.
The display must report both its NAME and its Capabilities when the Mac asks for them, usually at power-on.
A common problem with displays that have multiple inputs, is that at the moment the Mac asks for this information, the display is not paying attention to the correct port, and misses the query. The Mac does not get a response, so the display stays blank. You can use the (Detect Displays) button to get the Mac to ask again, but this may require an additional display.
I do not believe converting from Mini DisplayPort will improve anything. Direct DVI should be superior. Since your display is only 1920 wide, Dual-Link is not needed.

Question about Parallels and ATI Radeon 5770

Ok, so I have a Mac Pro 3,1 here. I'm upgrading it to 16GB and two 7200 RPM 3TB drives which I'll run in Raid 0.
It has an ATI 2600HD with 256MB VRAM. This card has two DVI ports.
I just purchased an ATI Radeon 5770. I will use it with two Cinema Displays (DVI connections).
To connect the second display, I have the Apple Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter at Firmware 1.03.
My question concerns Parallels 8.
My Windows 7 VM will be a heavy-use VM so I want snappy performance. I was planning to dedicate 8GB RAM, half my CPU cores to it, and 512MB VRAM on the 5770.
What I was wondering about was the possibility of leaving in the 2600 HD and using its GPU to support my Parallels VM. Is that feasible? Practical?
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Dump the 2600XT (put it on the shelf, don't use it)
Install Windows natively first, then you can use it both ways, natively and dual boot, plus in a VM when that works.
Another option is 10.8.2 supports more Nvidia cards and more then the 1GB.
Don't use green 3TB in an array.

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I am running 2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon. OSX 10.6.8.
It came with an ATi radeon 5770. I have been succesfully running 3 monitors, however I cannot have them with the proper resolution.
I have 1 samsung syncmaster 2433(24") and 2 samsung 933(18.5").
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One of the 18.5s uses the syncmaster resolutions (in display preferences shows that at the top of the box) and the other 18.5 is showing VGA Display at the top of the box. I don't care what it says, but I cannot get them on the same res. I would like them both @ 1360 x 768, but the monitor that shows VGA display will does not give me that as an option.
I have switched the hook ups around. (switching the slots which the monitors are connected to, yet the same monitor continues showing VGA display.....
My 24" is the DVI 1080p setting.
Any thoughts?

Yes. Just to go through step by step with you.
the computer has 3 video outs. 1 dvi and 2 mini dv
I go to display properties=
                    --> dvi --> 24"                      (resolution = 1080p)   60Hz                title of box SM2333T
                    --> vga with adaptor --> 18.5" ( IS 1360 x 768) 60Hz                        title of box syncmaster
                    --> vga with adaptor --> 18.5" ( I want it to be same as previous) --    title of box VGA display
X423424X"The Displays preferences should show three windows, one on each display. And are you saying the resolution selections in each display's window for the vga's does not show 1360 x 768? Is that a valid resolution for those displays at the selected refresh rate?"
Yes, on one of the 18.5s it does not give me the option for 1360 x 768. And yes, that is the suggestedresolution with that refresh rate.

Replacement power cable for ATI Radeon 5770?

I'm shopping around for a replacement graphics card for my Mac Pro and I've found several Radeon 5770s that don't have the PCIe power cable included.
Does anyone know what sort of cable they use and if replacements can be purchased?

yes it can be purchased but first, you are shopping for an Apple version, right?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC742ZM/A
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-ATI-Radeon-5770-MC742ZM/dp/B003Z6QH6M/
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/6615718/
OWC shows the cable, they also sell separately (maybe why they charge more?)
Amazon had customer photos but not showing one.
I was under the impression that Apple would/was including the cable.

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1. A WestingHouse Digital Electronics "17"
2. A Goldstar Company Ltd "23" (Main Display)
Im currently running the gnome desktop, what im trying to setup, is have both the gnome desktop show up on both monitors. For example if I wanted to move something from my main monitor to the smaller one to the left of me, I want to NOT be able to do that, and only have the mouse be able to move accross the 2. 2 Seperate desktops one 2 seperate screens. Im not quite sure what its called, Im thinking maybe its a clone Desktop? Anways, The graphics card Im using is an
Ati Radeon 5770, has 2 vga ports. I currently have the "video-ati" driver installed and works well with my main screen, but im unable to get my secondary screen (to the left of me) working. I tried going into System>>Preferences>>Monitors, and tried tinkering with the display, and tried enabling the 2 monitors and moving them from left to right, to see if that would possibly let it show up or start to function, but only the main screen works. I generated a new xorg.conf, since I didnt have one prior to installing Arch, I was following these to guides
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Dual_Monitors
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/Dual_Monitors/ATI
both are very nice, but Im still not quite understanding yet. Defiantly am trying. I edited my xorg.conf a few times, but got the same results each time, just the screen going blank and X crashing. I have here a copy of my xorg.conf, Xorg.conf.log, and xrandr output
Xorg.conf
http://pastebin.com/hbmdKrfv
Xorg-logs
http://pastebin.com/USZvtAMJ (Im thinking the Vsync and Hsync have something that might help)
Xrandr
http://pastebin.com/2cV95Ef4
Thank you guys!

An xorg.conf may not be necessary, but I still find it nice to have the control that the file provides.
In looking over yours, I see several things that could be causing your problems.
First off, I notice that you have Screen0 that is using Card0 and Monitor0. This part looks ok.
When I look at Screen1, I notice that you are using ATI Graphics Adapter1 and Monitor1. I don't see entries for either of those, although you have an ATI Graphics Atapter2, but there is no entry for your second monitor.
I also notice that you are trying to use both radeon and fglrx as drivers. As far as I know (and I don't have an ATI video card at the moment), you can use one driver or the other, but not both.
After you have these things fixed, then you can put in the Screen section in your server layout to describe the positioning of your second monitor.
All in all, the issues that you have to fix are minor, but frusterating if you are too close to the situation.
Good luck.

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Day one
I have upgraded my graphic card to ATI radeon 5770 in my MacPro 2008.
4 hours of installing the screen went blank with noice and line, like it happens in telivison when there is no signal.
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Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
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I wonder if anyone can tell me what are the "normal" temperature ranges for an ATI Radeon 5770 Mac Graphic Card running on a Mac Pro 1,1 with one monitor only doing the day-to-day basic operations! Mine gets aroung 45-49 Celsius (113-120 Farenheit) degrees. Im pretty concern about this issue because I cannot find anyone with a normal chart of temperature ranges over internet.
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... its the internal temperature of the Mac Pro. But do you think its normal?...
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I got a new laptop (Asus b53j, EU version with an i3 - should be same hardware otherwise) and of course it needs to run Arch, or it'll slowly rust.
It has an option to switch the graphics card in Windows (From Intel to ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series), which I guess might have something to do with this issue.
I'm unable to get any OpenGL rendering working, using the xf86-video-ati driver.
lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 18)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port (rev 18)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82577LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 06)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 06)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 06)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev a6)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 5 Series Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset SMBus Controller (rev 06)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan HDMI Audio [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
3f:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 05)
3f:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 05)
3f:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Link 0 (rev 05)
3f:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor QPI Physical 0 (rev 05)
3f:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05)
3f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor Reserved (rev 05)
xorg log (grep WW): Full log here http://codepad.org/FkQBzGoq
[ 3838.156] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/OTF/" does not exist.
[ 3838.156] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" does not exist.
[ 3838.157] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
[ 3838.425] (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
[ 3838.428] (WW) RADEON(0): Option "DynamicPM" is not used
[ 3838.428] (WW) RADEON(0): Option "ClockGating" is not used
[ 3838.428] (WW) RADEON(0): Option "DMAForXv" is not used
[ 3838.428] (WW) RADEON(0): Option "ScalerWidth" is not used
glxinfo | grep -i direct
direct rendering: Yes
glxinfo | grep -i opengl
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
20-radeon.conf
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series"
Driver "radeon"
Option "DRI" "on" # ?
Option "DynamicPM" "on" # Dynamic powersaving.
Option "ClockGating" "on" # Assisting option for powersaving.
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" # EXA should fit most cases.
Option "EXAVSync" "on" # EXAVSync is explained above.
Option "DMAForXv" "on" # Forced option in order to enable Xv overlay.
Option "ScalerWidth" "2048" # That should fix some very rare bugs.
Option "EnablePageFlip" "on" # It will not be enabled on R5xx cards.
Option "RenderAccel" "on" # Optional. It should be enabled by default.
Option "AccelDFS" "on" # Optional. See the man page.
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
No custom xorg.conf file, only a 20-radeon.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, but I tried removing this also.
dmesg log: http://codepad.org/WNELOXjo
Thanks for any help.
Last edited by valvet (2011-01-31 21:24:15)

Gusar wrote:
(II) RADEON(0): GPU accel disabled or not working, using shadowfb for KMS
^ There's your issue. Just a wild guess: are you in the video group? And another one: do you have the linux-firmware package installed?
Yes to both :-(.
disk wheel http hal video audio optical storage power users
Name : linux-firmware
Version : 20101108-1
URL : http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware.git;a=summary
Licenses : GPL2 GPL3 custom
Groups : None
Provides : kernel26-firmware=2.6.34.99
Depends On : None
Optional Deps : None
Required By : kernel26
Conflicts With : linux-firmware-git kernel26-firmware ar9170-fw iwlwifi-1000-ucode iwlwifi-3945-ucode iwlwifi-4965-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode iwlwifi-5150-ucode iwlwifi-6000-ucode
rt2870usb-fw rt2x00-rt61-fw rt2x00-rt71w-fw
Replaces : kernel26-firmware ar9170-fw iwlwifi-1000-ucode iwlwifi-3945-ucode iwlwifi-4965-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode iwlwifi-5150-ucode iwlwifi-6000-ucode rt2870usb-fw
rt2x00-rt61-fw rt2x00-rt71w-fw
Installed Size : 21232,00 K
Packager : Thomas Bächler <[email protected]>
Architecture : any
Build Date : 2010-11-08T23:31:43 CET
Install Date : 2011-01-31T17:04:52 CET
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Install Script : No
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http://www.barefeats.com/radx800.html
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