Should I run the Mac Pro while it is open?

I think that the loud fan noise coming from my Mac Pro is the GPU. It's a loud humming fan noise. I want to try holding the fan down on it while the computer is running to see if it stops making the noise, but I'm afraid to open the Mac while it's running. Is it OK to open it while it's running?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but this is the first Mac Pro I've used, and I'm afraid that I will break my $1000 computer.

Thanks for the recommendation. Hardware Monitor reported the same temperatures as iStat Menus, but it's more feature-robust. I like that guy's note on how it's not an App Store App
I actually opened my Mac while it was running and held down the GPU fan, and the weird lawnmower noise was coming from it. Some blasting from a compressed air can seemed to fix it, but the main fan is still a bit noisy. I think it's just worn down (since this is a used PC that I bought) and could use some lube.
The hatter wrote:
We have heard and found lately even and over time that Hardware Monitor is most accurate and thorough for monitoring senors readings.
http://www.bresink.com/osx/HardwareMonitor.html

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see question above

I am in my late 60's so I can't imagine all the changes and questions to what to do but... new Macs do not boot from an OS the pre-dates it.
The Mac Pro is 7.5 yrs old , I have the August 2006 1,1 right here right now.
Sounds like we have the same system - Mac Pro 1,1 2.66 dual/dual-core (total of 4-cores) DDR2 FB-DIMMs et c.
These cannot run Mountain Lion 10.8.x
The PowerMac G5 came out in Sept/Oct 2003 and shipping with10.3.0/
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Upgrade CS5 first ahead of time if you want Migration or Setup Assistant.
Clone your system:
How to Clone a Volume
Using Cloning as a Backup Strategy
See also Erasing a Drive, How and Why to Partition a Drive, RAID.
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7032/carbon-copy-cloner
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http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone.html
Sorry you felt the need to start a new thread.
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Why should i buy a macbook pro while the i7 windows laptop comes with more features and with a lesser price??

why should i buy a macbook pro while an i7 windows laptop comes with greater specs with less price???????
i love mac but i need strong points for mac to convince my father!!!!

osamawazarat wrote:
why should i buy a macbook pro while an i7 windows laptop comes with greater specs with less price???????
i love mac but i need strong points for mac to convince my father!!!!
For me, presonall, becasue the Mac will run OS X, while the windows machine will run, well, Windows. Seriously, whenever given the option, I greatly prefer to use OS X over windows without hesitation. I buy Apple hardware because I prefer OS X to Windows and have since the OS X public beta. Apple hardware is very good quality, but so are many Windows PC (Lenovo IMO makes some great hardware, if picking a Windows machine).
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HT4889 Just got a new macbook pro. Trying to migrate data from a MacPro to the macBook. MacBook will recognize the Mac Pro but not vice versa. Using Mac OS X 10.6.8 on the Mac Pro(powermac G4. The Mac Pro searches in vain for the MacBook. What should I do

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Dave VanHorn
[email protected]

Put the G4 into Target Disk Mode and open Migration Assistant on the new MBP. Your G4 needs to be running 10.5.8.

Can I run Virtual PC, and Photoshop CS on the Mac Pro?

Can I run Virtual PC, and Photoshop CS on the Mac Pro?
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The "RC" version of Parallels is a Release Candidate that while not a release version it is very near.
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TS4088 why is there a limit on 3 years? it should be all the MacBook Pro mid 2010 with symptoms, there should get their logic board changed for free, mine mac is 3 month late and i had this problem for over a year, but i first saw this article today :(

it should be all the MacBook Pro mid 2010 with symptoms, there should get their logic board changed for free, mine mac is 3 month late and i had this problem for over a year, but i first saw this article today

Hey Clintonfrombirmingham
I called Apple technical support in Denmark, but with no positive reply.
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I currently have a mac osx, and my CC keeps coming saying its expired, when it should be running the CS6 design standard. So how do I get my platform to use the CS6 as my default instead of the CC one.

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BDAqua wrote:
....but some other new Macs will boot frome a clone of 10.6.8...
Only with a whole lot of effort and instability. As the new Minis have
hardware (HD4000, USB 3.0, etc.) that is totally unsupported in old OSes.
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Is the Mac Pro capable of running the Classic environment?

My last Mac purchase was a Power Mac G4 running OS 10.4.7, and I can still access System 9 files on it via the Classic application. Now I have a Mac Pro on the way, and I fear the old files won't work on it.
Those old files include thousands of publication graphics created in programs that never progressed to OSX. The illustrations belong to my clients, who still want to use them in their 2007 advertising. On the other hand, if I hope to print our future publications, I'll need to replace worn-out computers, and the new Intel Macs are the only viable option.
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To Niel, Malcolm, Robin,
Thanks for the tip on SheepShaver; it looks like a work in progress, and that's interesting.
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Can the Mac Pro run Window XP (booth camp) and be used as a MAc OS server in the same time?
I am a small business and I was thinking of using the new mac pro for a new workstation on my studio and to also use it as a server for 5 work others stations. Is that possible? Or I am asking a bit to much work load to do for the Mac Pro?
Can the Mac Pro can run under Window XP and Autocad and still be accessed by other workstation whilst working on the cad software? Is booth camp will slow the machine like Virtual PC?
IS the MAc Pro can manage file hosting website with PHP and mySQL capabilites?
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Great question, but it appears the answer is no (at this time); they promise to work on it immediately. Check this thread at parallels.
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the cool guy wrote:
How long does a Mac Pro last compared to a macbook pro?
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the cool guy wrote:
now how much does a gig of ddr cost? do i need apple only or can i get it from some where else?
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I am confused about the reference to USB.
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I have the 64-bit version of Solidworks running on my Mac Pro and it's a screamer!
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Interestingly enough, I called Microsoft and asked what happens after 120 days, the answer was...."I don't know"...
weird.
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This is all done on the Mac Pro.
1. Download XPx64 from: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/facts/trial.mspx
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3. In Disk Utility select the WS0...EN.iso file mentioned previously and click the "convert" button.
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5. After saving the file, it will show up with a new extension *.cdr. Double click this file in the Disk Utility drive list.
6. After Finder finishes launching the file, go back to Disk Utility and select your new *.cdr file and click the Partition button to the right.
7. Once in the partition window, select Options and set the partition scheme to "Master Boot Record", hit OK.
8. After getting back in the partition window, select Volume Scheme and set to "1 partition", The size should be around 558.62 MB (don't worry about the format set to mac OS extended and the other greyed functions)
9. Select the Burn icon, insert your CD-R, set your post burning options, and have a Coke and a smile. Verify the file format is ISO 9660 file system by selecting the "get info" on the CD under "Finder".
**TIP #1 - make sure you've printed out the e-mail from Microsoft outlining the setup instructions and including the CD-Key. Don't be like me and get 98% through the Windows setup where it asks you for CD-Key and have to power off the computer and get it out of OS X.**
**TIP #2 - Since you are using an Apple keyboard Windows doesn't seem to be able to use it on the blue screen portion of the install. My remedy (after assuming the install locked up 6 times in a row) is to go find a cheap-o usb keyboard and mouse lying around (probably standard Microsoft stuff in your closet) and plug it in to be back of your Mac Pro tower. You do not need to go through the Mac OS hardware setup thing that pops up.
10. After printing out your MS instruction e-mail and plugging in your keyboard and mouse (see above), launch Boot Camp (don't even try to use the driver CD it makes, it's useless for XP x64) and install XP x64.
11. Have a beer and a smile, you will need the alcohol in your blood from here on out.
**TIP #3 - go buy 2 or 3 magazines and get a comfortable chair.**
12. Install Windows, follow the Boot Camp Beta instructions carefully until you get to the part where you install the driver CD. It won't work.
13. Follow these links to get the x64 drivers:
Audio: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&ser ies=2004061&Software=True&title=HD%20Audio%20CODECs
Nvidia Graphics driver for the 7300GT (remember, this is for Win XP x64 edition so it's not the same as the regularly posted 32 bit version):
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_91.47.html
LAN drivers (Be sure to get the x64 version):
Download PROEM64T.exe from the Intel website
13. Update Windows.
**NOTE: I am still having the same driver issues as others that have installed XP x64 on a Mac Pro, for example the Apple keyboard and mouse function, but the CtlAltDel and Eject CD disk remain non functional.**
14. Install SolidWorks 2007 x64 from the included DVD in your software update box that came in the mail last week.
15. GO TO BED...IT'S 4:30 am!!!
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7) Microsoft XP x64 Professional
Please correct me on any driver postings if they are in error or missing. These are the ones I used and they are working for me. I do not claim to be a guru (this is only my 7th day of using Macintosh in my entire life), I'm just a CAD guy that has a MacNut for a boss. It was either adapt or die, so I'm hapilly adapted.
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.7) Microsoft XP x64 Professional

Alright CT, here's the deal.
You'll need to update windows first, they have the HD USB audio device driver update on Windows Update. After this, install the RealTek driver you downloaded earlier. Don't worry about windows saying it found a device but can't find the driver for it, that'll be fixed when you run the Realtek install program.
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-Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 (Port 3 thru Port7)
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(tried to install on top of existing installation twice...failed twice. Suck!)
I used the picture guide located at:
http://st118.startlogic.com/~macproxp/index.html
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ST3250824AS (P)ATA
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Here are the numbers after making about 40 copies of a 59.8 MB file on the desktop to the desktop (to try and tax the processor/hd):
HD Tune: ST3250824AS P Benchmark
Transfer Rate Minimum : 0.6 MB/sec
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This is no where close to 3GB/sec, but a helluva lot faster than 35KB/sec like before, pretty dang fast nonetheless.
Hopefull someone smarter that me can figure out if I'm at the fastest I can go or not.
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