Should I upgrade to Leopard or Snow OS?
Hi everyone!
I have one of the first MacBook Pro's. I got it on September 2006, and still have the Tiger OS. I bought it with 1GB RAM, but upgraded it to 2GB about 1 year ago. I'm a designer, so I mainly use the Adobe Suite, and sometimes find my oldie Mac going slow... but it's still working.
I wasn't really interested in upgrading to the Leopard OS, but I'm recently considering it since I just got the new Iphone 4 and I discovered that I cannot sync them together unless I have the 10.5 upgrade.
I was wondering, if you could advice me on whether it could be good to upgrade my mac to leopard, or if you think doing this would just make my computer even slower and harder to work with the Adobe software.
Thanks
MJ
Well, according to Wikidot, a trusted site, your version of Adobe is fully supported when running Snow Leopard as your OS.
So, you might as well upgrade to the Snow Leopard box set. It includes iLife'11 and iWork with Snow. And it's the same price and most often cheaper then Leopard all by itself. Also, a legit copy of Leopard is pretty hard to find.
Let us know if you intend to do so. Make sure all your apps. are Snow ready by reviewing that site. We can help you find sites you need for that too and help get your system ready for the Snow upgrade.
DALE
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I have a hdd from a late 2009 mbp. I upgraded from leopard to snow leopard to lion to mountain lion. Now I want to upgrade to a ssd. Do I need to purchase a new copy of mountain lion to go on my new ssd? If I don't, then what is the procedure to transfer mountain lion with my 4 user accounts onto the new ssd from the hdd?
I'm confused on if I can use the recovery hd on a thumb drive to install mountain lion on my ssd. Will it be pheasible with so many OS X upgrades? And then how do I get my user accounts onto the ssd from the hdd. Do I use migration assistant? Do I need to make a time machine backup first? Should I use something called Carbon Clone or something like that?
Thanks for readingIf you have a cable that connects and external HDD to the MBP, it will do. If it is something like this, an enclosure will not be needed for the swap:
An enclosure allows you to use your old HDD for storage or backup purposes. The cable will not.
Here are instructions as to how the swap can be performed using DISK UTITY. Substitute You cable for the enclosure in same:
INSTALLING A NEW HDD IN A MBP
1. Make certain that you have backed up all of your important data.
2. You will need a HDD enclosure. One with a USB connection will do. A 9 pin Firewire is better.
3. Install your new drive in the enclosure and connect it to your MBP.
4. Open DISK UTILITY>ERASE. From the left hand column drag the new drive into the 'Name' field. Make sure that the format is 'Mac OS Extended (Journaled)'. Click on the 'Erase' button.
5. Click on the 'Restore' button (on top). Drag the old drive into the 'Source' field and the new drive into the 'Destination' field. Click on the 'Restore' button on the bottom right hand corner.
Depending upon the amount of data you are transferring, this may take a couple hours or more. A Firewire will speed up the transfer. This will result in both drives having identical information on them.
6. After the data transfer has completed, you may swap the drives. Start the MBP and you have finished the installation. The initial boot may take a bit longer than you are accustomed to, but that is normal.
7. When you are satisfied that the new hard drive if functioning properly, you can erase the old drive and use it for any needs that you may have.
If there is any confusion on your part, post back.
Ciao. -
I've read similar questions and have studied the answers, but I am still terrified to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard on my macbook pro. The only reason for doing it is in order to sync my macbook pro with my iPad. I do have an external drive which automatically backs up every hour. BUT.......I am techno-ignorant as well as techno-paranoid. I have the disks to update to snow leopard but knowing doing so may likely change/alter/lose/obliterate my current set-up, it actually makes me feel sick to think of it.
Years ago when updating via Apple Protection Plan tech support, my screen actually went blank, everything gone! The tech told me not to worry, that "we" would be able to restore things, but several hours later I was still looking at a primitive looking screen that wasn't anything like what I had before. His language was too technical, in that there was an assumption I understood things I had zero understanding of. Example: partition my external drive.
Anyway, living hundreds of miles from an Apple service provider, and no Apple techs in my community, I had to wait for a trip to an Apple Store where one of the wonderful guys at the genius bar spent a ton of time getting things back to normal and actually explaining it enough that I had a vague understanding.
So now I am in the predicament again and won't know what to do after installing the new disks and finding a likely mess or absence of documents etc. on my computer. I don't know how to access the external drive, and even if I did I wouldn't know how to move stuff from that to my computer.
Anyone have any suggestions?I'm in the same boat as you, I've used Mac's since day one and neglected my Windows education and now it has come to haunt me as I have to learn it like a school kid.
Nearly 99% of all businesses and nearly 95% of everyone use Windows, Steve Jobs declared "The desktop wars are over, Microsoft won" a long time ago.
By 2015 tablets are going to be selling to consumers more than traditional computers, your living proof, you got a iPad.
Apple has already discontinued the Xserver, the Xraid, the MacBooks and the 17" Macbook Pro.
Apple has introduced BootCamp in OS X 10.6 and up, this allows a partition and drivers so one can install Windows on a Mac.
https://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/
Why do you think they named it "BootCamp"
You can't run a older OS X version longterm like you have with 10.5 anymore, Mac's are being targeted for attacks and older OS X versions are dropped for security updates.
In fact your Mac might still be part of the 750,000 Mac strong Flashback botnet or infected.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_BackDoor.Flashback
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/04/how-to-check-forand-get-rid-ofa-mac-flashba ck-infection/
See here, Apple has no security updates for 10.5 users and soon 10.6 is going to be ignored next.
https://support.apple.com/kb/ht1222
1-1.5 years is the OS X upgrade cycle. Change everytime like it or not.
So I'm thinking about your long term future and how you obviously don't like change, need local assistance like it appears you first claimed.
So buy a new Mac and upgrade your OS X version whenever Apple shows it in AppStore.
When your machine can no longer upgrade to the newest OS X version, then you've got about another 2 more years of security updates before you have to buy a new machine or risk running a insecure one.
Learn here how to go about fixing your own machine and creating backups/bootable clones this way your not having to drive several hundred miles for a software or boot drive repair. Simply reverse clone your troubles away.
Most commonly used backup methods
https://discussions.apple.com/community/notebooks/macbook_pro?view=documents
I'm of the maturity and experience that I know a Mac isn't always the best solution for everyone and even Apple doesn't provide the proper hardware, support or features for everyone. Why only store locations in high traffic ritzy areas?
Our SteveJobs fan here is under 18 years old with good eyes, he's not older like we are with bad or failing eyesight.
The new Mac's have hard to see glossy screens and the type/UI can't be scaled up easily to accomadate our older eyes, however a Windows 7 machine does allow up to 150% scale of the UI, type etc., and also there are anti-glare screen PC's and just about no more anti-glare screen Mac's.
I wrote this User tip in case you have trouble seeing the screen, at least you can scale the web browsing up
Web browsing for hard of seeing users
Apple might still be selling the anti-glare 15" non-retina on their online store, it's the "high resolution/anti-glare model"
But I can get a 17" 1080i HD anti-glare Windows 7 laptop at Sager for a lot more performance and screen size for the price than a Mac.
https://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=category_browse&selected_cat=2
Screen size is important as the UI and text can be scaled up for easier reading.
Of course you do now have the option of having Windows pre-installed alongside OS X to begin your transition to the dark side.
Just call and they will accomondate, hold the option/alt key at boot time to swtich operating systems.
http://www.macmall.com/
Windows 7 looks just as good as OS X, the secret is having a good monitor with most PC's come with don't.
Good Luck and I hope I've given you a lot to think about. -
I recently upgraded from Leopard to Snow Leopard on my MacBook and I noticed that I have more capacity on the Macintosh HD than before the upgrade. I checked my files and applications and they are still on my computer and nothing appears to be missing. Before the upgrade I had around 111 GB capacity with around 10.50 GB available on the Mac HD but now after the upgrade I have 119 GB capacity and 20.92 GB available. Can capacity on the HD change after an OS upgrade?
No, but the upgrade removed unneeded PowerPC code and changed the way free space is determined.
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I upgraded from leopard to snow leopard. now iTunes won't recognize my iphone, and the upgrading the software keeps crashing.. help!!
Mountain Lion is OS X 10.8
10.6 was called Snow Leopard.
To use iTunes 10.7 the following is required:
Macintosh System Requirements
Mac computer with an Intel Core processor and 512MB of RAM
OS X version 10.6.8 or later
Safari 4.0.3 or later
400MB of available disk space
Broadband Internet connection to use the iTunes Store
Do you use iTunes Match?
That way all of your songs would be matched with the master song on the iTunes servers independently of iTunes on your Mac or PC...
Look here for further information: http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/ -
Free upgrade from leopard to snow leopard..is this true?
I have read on apple news that apple is offering free software upgrade for leopard to snow leopard.. is that true? I followed their link and nothing is available
Shootist007 wrote:
Have you signed in at that page and then looked around for a free way to update from Leopard to SL?
You may have missed the boat by already switching from MM to the iCloud.
Next option is to call Apple.
Yes I did look around on the page. I am very familiar with the page. It is the log on page for icloud that you are taken to after you say yes to convert from me.com to icloud.com. I have changed over about 6 me accounts so I have seen it a few times and even today when I went through the motions again there was no option for a free Snow Leopard anything. Yes, I agree with you. I thought I would try on here and then go call Apple if I had no luck here on the forums. Thanks!! -
Trying to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard
Trying to upgrade from leopard to snow leopard but now cannot use keyboard to boot from DVD (holding C key) or even from external drive (holding option key)
Is there any other way that I can force my mac to boot from external drive. Please helpHi Cattus
In reply to your answer - external drive is GUID partition and has worked on my other Macbook in upgrading from leopard to snow leopard. So I know the external drive does work.
I have tried DVD and external drive on good Macbook and all works fine back on problem Macbook no luck. I don't even get firmware password request. Keys on keyboard do not work at all. Tried to boot in single mode (cmd S) as well as target drive (T key) but no luck whatsoever.
External drive is USB and working. Problem Macbook did show signs of not good functioning keyboard with certain keys not working whilst still under Mac OS 10.5.8.
Do you know how to get around this problem? Would I need to remove drive from Macbook and resolve it as a stand alone drive?
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Everyone keeps talking about an upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard for $29 but I cannot find it anywhere-any suggestions?
Good news for current buyers ... single user SL is down to $19, 5-user family-pack is down to $29 ... I would buy the 5-user license to avoid need ing to buy it again after Apple stops selling it.
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Can I upgrade from leopard to snow leopard on my MacBook 10.5.8?
can I upgrade from leopard to snow leopard on my MacBook 10.5.8? How and were can I get snow leopard if this is possible?
The hardware requirements for 10.6 are
Snow Leopard requires 1 GB of RAM and 5 GB of available drive space.
The first generation Intel Macs, based on Intel Core Solo and Core Duo CPU, do not support 64-bit operation; all Core 2 Duo and later models do.
These models do not have graphics processors that can benefit from OpenCL:
MacBook Pro released before June 2007
MacBook released before October 2008
original MacBook Air
iMacs released before March 2009
Mac mini released before March 2009
Mac Pro released before January 2008 (Jan. 2008 and later models with unsupported video cards can used the GeForce 8800 upgrade kit - Apple part no. MB137Z/A - for OpenCL support.)
If you Mac Book meets these thaen you must puchase a Snow Leopard DVD. Amazon has it listed
http://www.amazon.com/Mac-version-10-6-3-Snow-Leopard/dp/B001AMHWP8
Remember to backup up everything first.
Allan -
Problems upgrading from Leopard to Snow Leopard
Hopefully I'm in the right place. This is my first Apple and my first problem. Recently upgrade from Leopard to SL and have had problems ever since. Mail, TM, Safari, etc. I have searched for explanations, but unfortunately can't find answers I understand. I have MS and my cognitive functions aren't what they use to be. I have seen suggestions about clean installs, restoring from TM, cloning HD then re-installing, etc... I would love to stay with SL but need it to work, so would a clean install do the trick? If so, how do I do a "clean install"? Should I just go back to Leopard and what would be the best way? I backed up with TM before I upgraded. I have had my MBP since fall of 2007 and it was starting to slow down before the upgrade so I wouldn't mind the clean install of either OSX. Any help would be appreciated.
since you backed up before you upgraded you can safely do the following.
boot from the snow leopard DVD.
start Disk Utility from the Utilities menu and erase the main hard drive.
Quit disk utility and proceed with the install of Snow leopard. that's what many people call a "clean install".
once the install is finished and you restart the computer you'll get to Setup Assistant. it will give you an option to migrate your data from a TM backup. you can choose to do so although it's possible that this will reintroduce the problems you are having now. another option is to skip the migration at this point (you can do it later) and set up the computer.
now you can restore your data from the TM backup. you can use Migration Assistant (it's in /Applications/Utilities) or you can restore things by hand if using Migration assistant reintroduces the problems you are having now. you can do something in between too. you can use Migration Assistant to migrate just your user data but now system files or Applications and reinstall the applications by hand. -
Upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard gone awry
Hello, I have a late 2007 MBP and decided to upgrade from Leopard 10.5.8 to Snow Leopard 10.6.8. After reading forum posts and articles I decided to attempt a clean install as opposed to just an upgrade to gain some performance on this old mac until I can afford to replace it. Here's the history of what I did and where I'm at now. Any help would be appreciated as I can't find any forum posts that address this problem directly.
12/26: Created time machine backup on external backup (mirrored raid via FW800 if it makes a difference) while still on Leopard to prepare for clean install of Snow Leopard.
12/28: Did clean install to upgrade to Snow Leopard (booted from disk, erased hd and installed SL). Then, being safety minded, created another time machine backup (a mistake in hindsight)
Restarted under new SL.
Tried to use migration assistant to migrate documents, apps, libraries, etc only to find only my latest backup SL backup is available which obviously doesn't have any of my files. Migration Asst apparently only offers access to the previous 12/26 backup. Crap. At least I have my Time Machine backup.
Go to time machine and try to restore Macintosh HD to state it was in on 12/26. It runs for a couple hours, asks me do I want to copy or replace the user profile (I choose replace) and when finished there's no sign of any change…no docs, no apps, nothing visibly different. I tried again, this time, Time Machine says my hard drive is full and I can't restore! I look at hard drive "get info" and sure enough it says I'm using 280GB out of 293GB. However when I "get info" on the individual Apps, Library, System & Users it only adds up to ~7.5GB of space. So clearly Time Machine has copied massive files (likely twice now) that are somehow invisible to me.
I'm quite frustrated at this point. I realize I took the more complicated path by not just "upgrading" and I made a couple missteps along the way. However, neither Migration Assistant or a Time Machine restore are able to help put my Documents and Apps back and now my hard drive is full. I'm tempted to just erase and reinstall clean SL again and then manually move things from my 12/26 Time Machine backup but I'm concerned about doing this right. Is there a more sensible, possibly less drastic way of untangling this mess? Thanks for any input.Tell me you can get at the Time Machine data. That will put a smile on my face!
Yes, most importantly, my data is still very safe and I can see the 12/26 time machine data on the external drive, both by browsing to it with the finder and also when I launch Time Machine and browse back in time.
What I was unable to do is:
Migrate the 12/26 data using the "Migration Assistant" app "after" I did a backup of my new Snow Leopard install which I realize was a mistake. Now when I attempt to use the "Migration Assistant" app and point it to the Time Machine volume, all it sees is the useless 12/28 Snow Leopard backup which obviously has none of my data. I can't point Migration Assistant to the 12/26 restore point which has the real data.
Following that I attempted to launch the "Time Machine" app, go back in time to restore to the 12/26 backup. This seemed to fill my internal HDD with (I'm guessing) files and folders that I am unable to see. When I command click to get-info on the internal HDD icon it shows it being full. However browsing through the drive via Finder it seems very empty. Command clicking to get info on the 4 folders in the internal HDD, it shows a total of 7.5GB used. Perhaps my data is there but hidden, however since I tried this twice, there's likely a level of redudancy that's quite a mess now. It seemed simple but Reading the article you sent, it sounds like I should have booted with the Snow Leopard disk and done the
From what I've read, I understand there are three ways to migrate my 12/26 data:
1. Migration Assistant App (because of the above description, I think cannot work anymore)
2. Time Machine App
3. Manually browse and copy necessary files and folders from the external
What I was trying to understand was when you say "transfer," which of these options are you referring to? I'm gathering #2, using the Time Machine app to restore as opposed using Migration Assistant?
By the way, I appreciate your patience and generosity with your time. I will make sure to print and follow the tutorials you sent as well.
- Matt -
Upgrade from Leopard to snow leopard failed, what do I do now?
Hi!
I tried to upgrade leopard to snow leopard, but the upgrade failed. It says "The content of this disk cannot be changed". I tried to repair the drive with disk util, but it didn't help. So now I want to backup my files before it's to late. I can find and browse my files using the terminal tool. But I can't (as in don't know how) copy them to an external drive as all the mounts are read only. I tried to mount a samba share, but that didn't work (using "mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.xxx/xxx tmp").
Is there a way to mount a network share in the OSX installer (terminal)?
I found the command "fsck_hfs -pry /dev/disk0s1", they say it's dangerous. Should I use it?
I have windows partition, can I access my files from here? How?
Thanks for your helpThe error "keys out of order" needed a tool stronger then Disk Utility to repair. I suggest one of two paths for you either get and run DiskWarrior or reformat the disk.
Remember reformatting the disk will remove all data from it.
Allan -
Upgrade to Leopard or Snow Leopard from Tiger
Hi!
Does anyone know how to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.5 or higher? I currently have 4.11 Tiger and am willing to download for free, or purchase the newer operating systems? I've downloaded both JMP and Matlab, but neither will run on anything below 10.5.
I looked at the apple website and can't find anything obvious and the new Snow Leopard only upgrades from leopard??
Also, will upgrading my system affect any of my current files or programs?
Thanks!
Message was edited by: leslie.roosWhat types of APP problems are you referring to with 10.5?
Some do not work under 10.5, some will never work or be updated, some have free updates, some have paid updates, just far too many to mention.
I would be more than happy to stick with Tiger, but I can't run the stats programs (JMP and MAtlab) I need for data analyses!
Is MATLAB supported on the MAC OS X 10.4 Tiger platform?
Date Last Modified: Thursday, September 10, 2009
Solution:
MATLAB is officially supported on the Mac OS X 10.4.x operating system for versions R14SP3 to R2008b. For a list of specific supported versions, see our System Requirements page at the following link:
http://www.mathworks.com/support/sysreq/current_release/
http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/en/data/1-13NRO4/index.html?solution= 1-13NRO4
Only other solution I can think of, which may or may not be acceptable to you, is to get an external Firewire Drive, Install 10.5 on it, boot from the OS you need to use for different things. -
Stuck upon upgrading from Leopard to Snow Leopard on MacBook pro
Hey Guys,
I'm experiencing some software issues upon upgrading, anyways I bought a Mac OSX snow leopard disk from the apple store today and wanted to upgrade from leopard, so i made a purchase. I read all of the instructions and inserted the disk, after a few minutes into the installation process, it prompted to restart and continue installation after restart. Once the macbook restarted, it booted up showing only the apple logo. I gave it a couple of minutes (20-30 minutes), yet same thing. Nothing appeared other than the gray apple logo and white background, no spiral w.e thats usually under the logo when installing or something. I've attempted it twice already but still no sign, i get the same results. Restarted my computer, took out the disk and booted back up, then retried the process once again, do any of you guys know a solution? Anyways i'm running on a MacBook pro i5, last years model.Upgrading will not solve software issues. Fix the software issues first by isolating their cause. Is your data backed up?
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How do i upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard
I just recently took over managing a Mac Mini running on Leopard. I want to get it up to Mountain Lion but i need to first upgrade the OS to Snow Leopard. Is there a cheap way of doing this since i will only be upgrading so i can get it up to 10.8?
Thanks.Upgrading to Snow Leopard, Lion, or Mountain Lion
You can upgrade to Mountain Lion from Lion or directly from Snow Leopard. Mountain Lion can be downloaded from the Mac App Store for $19.99. To access the App Store you must have Snow Leopard 10.6.6 or later installed.
You can purchase Snow Leopard by contacting Customer Service: Contacting Apple for support and service - this includes international calling numbers. The price is $19.99 plus tax. You will receive physical media - DVD - by mail.
Third-party sources for Snow Leopard are:
Snow Leopard from Amazon.com
Snow Leopard from eBay
After you install Snow Leopard you will have to download and install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 to update Snow Leopard to 10.6.8 and give you access to the App Store.
You can purchase Lion by contacting Customer Service: Contacting Apple for support and service - this includes international calling numbers. The cost is $19.99 (as it was before) plus tax. It's a download.
Be sure your computer meets the minimum requirements:
Apple - OS X Mountain Lion - Read the technical specifications.
Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Mountain Lion
1. iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
2. MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
3. MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
4. MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
5. Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
6. Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
7. Xserve (Early 2009)
Are my applications compatible?
See App Compatibility Table - RoaringApps - App compatibility and feature support for OS X & iOS.
Am I eligible for the free upgrade?
See Apple - Free OS X Mountain Lion upgrade Program.
For a complete How-To introduction from Apple see Apple - Upgrade your Mac to OS X Mountain Lion.
Model Eligibility for Snow Leopard and Lion.
Snow Leopard General requirements
1. Mac computer with an Intel processor
2. 1GB of memory
3. 5GB of available disk space
4. DVD drive for installation
5. Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may
apply.
6. Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.
Lion System Requirements
1. Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or
Xeon processor
2. 2GB of memory
3. OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
4. 7GB of available space
5. Some features require an Apple ID; terms apply.
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