Should PPDS orders consume capacity in the SNP Capacity view in 9ASNP94?

Dear Gurus
Should PPDS orders consume capacity in the Capacity View in 9ASNP94?
We currently only use PPDS, but are looking to implement SNP for mid-range planning and S&OP. I would like to demonstrate the simplicity of the capacity view in SNP, but the planned orders in PPDS do not consume the capacity of the Resource in the standard planning book/view SNP94(2). We are using Single mixed production resources which I thought were suitable for both PPDS and SNP planning. This is a particular concern because I would expect that the SNP and PPDS horizons will have to cross over and so PPDS and SNP will have to take into account the capacity consumed by orders in the other module.
Any help will be appreciated!
Elamobel

If you are using PDS you probably need this BADI:
Note 657185 - RTO: Sample code for calculating bucket consumptions 4.0
As standard only the continuous consumption is maintained in the PDS by the CIF, the bucket consumption (which is the SNP view of capacity) is missing.
Check the related notes too (especially 1462965)
If you are using PPMs you can just maintain the missing data directly

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Can someone let me know how the Capacity Consumption KF(9ACACON) is calculated in the SNP Capacity Planning Book.
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Hi
There is no formula as such, it depends on the master data settings in your resource. In transaction /sapapo/res01 you can display the Capacity but how exactly depends on what type of resource you are using and how the capacity is calculated, basically you can have:
Time-Continuous capacity
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If it is from Cont Capacity then click that tab and see the start, end and break times there.
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when I check a storage resource in the capacity view the key figure "Capacity Consumption" (9ACACON) is displayed.
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I want to check capacity consumption of the projected stock in the future which is only calculated in auxiliary key figure u201CStock on Hand (Projected)u201D. This key figure has also function 6007 assigned.
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Hi julian,
let me rephrase what I said above:
When I say:"the capacity consumption for storage capacity is not based on projected stock but on the orders": I mean:
The capacitiy consumption calculation is not based on the proejcted stock key figure.Instead the storage quantity is calculated based on initial stock, receipt AND demand.
This should give the same result, but what I meant is: I don't think that the changes you have done for the projected stock have any impact on the storage capacity consumption.
In you case it looks like the result is based only on receipt as you mentioned, but to be honest even that look wrong (something arriving on day x should consume the storage untill it is removed and send somewhere else, and not only on the date of arrival)
Note the standard data view 9ASNP94/SNP94(2) - the capacity view- does NOT contain the projected stock key figure.
What you want to see is correct: in standard it should work! (except that it is not based on the projected stock key figure itself, but it is recaculated...)
Did you check if the standard view 9ASNP94/SNP94(2) was showing the right result?
I asked you:" How your system behave with other order types (e.g ditribution demand, production...) "
I meant: when you have a distribution demand, is your capacity consumption reduced?
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Currently, we are taking only SNP Heuristics Run and the output viz. planned stock transfer requisitions are being passed to PPDS as such. But now we feel, SNP capacity leveling can play a vital role in getting more fine tuned results from PPDS. So, We wants to start using the SNP Capacity leveling run. We shall like to know the work flow / procedure for taking the SNP capacity level run i.e. what inputs should be properly reviewed before taking the SNP capacity level run and what shall be its output..? Kindly let us know the procedure / work flow for taking the SNP Capacity Levelling Run.
Your early reply in this regard shall be really appreciable.
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25-Mar-10

Hi Sanjeev,
as in any other module, correct master will play a key role in getting effective results in capacity levelling. you will need to check the following master data while setting the system for capacity levelling :
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Maintenance of shift - again as present in the shop floor.
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also you need to check the lot sizes, rounding profiles, and period factor, becasue all three combined play a major role in giving good or better results after levelling.
you may also check at what level you want to run the levelling. whther the bottleneck is at the finished component level, or 2nd level, etc. you may check whther you have discrete manufacuring or REM and if you really want to levelling on REM order.
then you need to analyse, what is the lengh of horizon you want to run the capacity leveling on. sometimes it makes no sense to run on the entire horizon because if capcities are already overlaoded, you will not achieve the desired results.
hence depending upon the level of your understanding and comfort of the planner (who will be using this result), the horizon can be increased grdually.
if you are starting to implemement capcity levelling, you can sumulate runs and show the results to the planner and check if the standard capacity heursitics satisfies their requirement. else you can go for custom requirement.
you will also have to decide on the stratagies, priorities,etc based on the business requirement.
i think the above should give some starting direction to implement capcaity levelling in your system.
award points if you find this useful.
Rgds, Sandeep
Edited by: Sandeep Budhiraja on Mar 25, 2010 11:49 AM

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Dear Experts,
The system appears to have converted a number of SNP orders to PPDS while retaining the SNP orders too.but the orders should not have been converted to PPDS although they are outside the SNP horizon.
What could be the reason?
Kindly suggest the way out.
Regards,
Srinivas.S

Hi,
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Hello jejeje,
thanks for your efforts - what you describe is something users have found out on our side too - a problem remains: you can save this setting "Period from last Selection" and it brings you to the INITIAL column but: once you have scrolled forward in the SNP data view (so that the INITIAL column has disappeared) and you leave the SNP data view or select another product ... it "remembers" that you last time left the data view NOT having INITIAL column as a start column.
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We have SNP orders that always start at 00:00:00 and finish at midnight 23:59:59
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I am converting a snp planned order from ppds order in transaction /sapapo/rrp_sap2ppds and using heuristic sap_pp_002.But it is canceling the heuristic and giving above error message.I have given 60days ppds horizon and 61days snp horizon.lot size:lot-for-lot.Please suggest what to do?
Thanks&regards
venkadesh

Hello ,
The hueristics sap_pp_002 you are using is based on algorithm "planning of std. lots".
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I think the above mentioned hueristics should be able to solve the problem .
Also for more information refer to below link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm2007/helpdata/en/8a/475c3c3906b106e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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Naveen
Message was edited by: Naveen Srinivasa

Hi Mariano,
I have gone through the description of the FM it says:
This function module is complex and is subject to several technical restrictions. For this reason, you should not use ORDER_CHANGE for extended periods of time.
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OM_ORDER_CREATE
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Please check the settings in the heuristics SAP_SNP_SNGL(Individual Conversion SNP --> PP/DS) or SAP_SNP_MULT, whatever you are using.
PPDS horizon is relevent for the conversion and SNP horizon may not be relevant.
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Conversion Hprizon
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I am trying to do small testing over PP run in SAP APO.
I have created everything manually in SAP APO(Product,location,No source of supply at Plant)
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Just wondered if there is anything i can do about my situation.
I switched from Sky around christmas time for no other reason than i wanted a faster internet connection and BT Infiinity was my only option.
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casiodan wrote:
Hi Folks.
Just wondered if there is anything i can do about my situation.
I switched from Sky around christmas time for no other reason than i wanted a faster internet connection and BT Infiinity was my only option.
I ordered online and everything went through ok and i was given a date for the service to be activated, until i rung BT with the code from Sky to switch my number. I was told that there would be a delay and it would be february before i could have Infinity and i would need to re-order it then. I was also told that i would lose the half price offer as soon as i upgraded which i wasnt happy about because i would have stuck with my sky subscription until it was available had i known.....anyway for the sake of a few quid i decided to let that go and agreed to re-order on the date i was given.
So my BT Broadband has been running since then an i only got round to ordering the BT Infinity again last week. Again the order was accepted, i have arranged an engineer visit and booked a day off work.
I have just received and email to say the order couldn't now be processed due to lack of capacity at the exchange and no date had been given as to when it would be available and i should 'Reorder in a couple of weeks/months'
I feel like i have been totally mislead by all this, i was perfectly happy with my standard broadband from sky and had Infinity not been available to me i would not have switched to BT.
Im just wondering if there is anything i can do about this.....im not hopeful as i am guessing if there is no capacity at the exchange then that won't change any time soon.
Thanks
Dan
You were advised to order in February but opted to wait until April but the fact that other customers have now beaten you to the limited capacity is BT's fault for misleading you?

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