Show Photo Settings VS Emptying Trash?

Am very confused about implications of emptying the trash in iMovie (6hd) ...
I've done a movie which is really just photos with effects, motion, music.
It SEEMS, as if it's no longer possible to display a preview of a motion photo (Ken Burns effect) once the trash has been emptied.
I'd Like to be able to delete the experiments, and truly removed clips - but keep the clips truly in the movie - so that they remain editable. (with a preview)
ANY ideas? My trash is growing enormous.
Alix
ASIDE & WARNING:
Also, I noticed quite a bit of degradation on 'motion' photo's that had multiple edits(This was not evident till DVD was played). And found the only way to restore quality was to replace the old "clip" with orig photo with same effect recreated. -- has any one else noticed this? IS it related to emptying trash - which seems to store original photo?
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It SEEMS, as if it's no longer possible to display a
preview of a motion photo (Ken Burns effect) once the
trash has been emptied.
Good catch. Yes, there's a bug in iMovie 6 (not in iMovie 5) that discards the source image if the Ken Burns checkbox is ON when the image was imported. If you empty the iMovie trash, you can't later update the rendered clip.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2139814&#2139814
I'd Like to be able to delete the experiments, and
truly removed clips - but keep the clips truly in the
movie - so that they remain editable. (with a
preview)
If by experiments you mean images that you've imported but no longer want to keep then Yes, you can delete them like any other clip and empty the iMovie trash.
iMovie 5 and iMovie 6 use non-destructive editing of clips. That means you can always restore a clip to its original length. If you import a 5-minute clip and split it into three parts, each of the three clips can be restored to the length of the original clip. If you screw up, recovery is just a few mouseclicks away.
In iMovie 4, if Clips 1, 2 and 3 share the same source file, trashing Clip 2 will remove its frames from the source file, shortening the file. You will recover that disk space when you empty the iMovie trash.
That's not how it works in iMovie 5/6. When you empty the trash the source file is NEVER shortened, for Clips 1 and 3 must be restorable to the full length of the original clip. If other clips use that source file, no disk space is recovered because no frames are removed from the source file.
Disk space is only recovered when you discard the LAST clip of a source file. Then iMovie HD discards the entire file.
When it does that, note that iMovie 5/6 moves the file to the Mac Trash (in the Finder). So you must empty the Mac Trash too to recover the disk space.
BTW, you can pretty much ignore the Trash numbers reported by iMovie HD. It's reporting the size of the source file, which may or may not actually be discarded.
There are pros and cons to non-destructive editing, of course. The biggest disadvantage is that we recover less disk space. The advantage is we can always restore a clip -- even when Copying and Pasting clips between projects.
There's also improved reliability. When emptying the Trash in iMovie 5/6, we no longer see the project corruption we sometimes saw in iMovie 2/3/4.
Fortunately, large FireWire drives are cheap and getting cheaper. (You may need one, by the way, for your drive is very full. Best advice I hear is to leave at least 10% empty or Mac OS X itself can get into trouble.)
If that's not an option, one solution is to export the iMovie HD project back to the camera, then re-import it to a new project. The new project won't contain the discarded stuff.
ASIDE & WARNING:
Also, I noticed quite a bit of degradation on
'motion' photo's that had multiple edits(This was not
evident till DVD was played). And found the only way
to restore quality was to replace the old "clip" with
orig photo with same effect recreated. -- has any
one else noticed this? IS it related to emptying
trash - which seems to store original
photo?
See bug above.
Also be aware of an iMovie 4/5/6 bug that adds jaggies to photos that were NOT rendered by the Ken Burns Effect when importing the image. If iMovie asks permission to render the stills later, it adds jaggies to the video it renders. That will show up on the DVD.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2105598&#2105598
Karl

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Not emptying the trash is a terrible solution. As the imovie becomes too big to fit on a DVD unless the trash is gone!
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First, close iMovie and reopen it and see if it now works. If not, delete iMovie's preference file. Close iMovie, go to your Home folder (YourUserName)/ Library/Preferences/com.apple.imovie.plist Be sure to select the correct one; if you have another version of iMovie the plist file for it might have a number such as iMovie7.
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De Javous all over agan. I am using HD 6.03, and have been for quite a while. Back a couple of years ago there was a software flaw the was fixed, now it has come back to haunt me.
When i have a clip I want to modify, I go into "Show Photo Settings", my clip is black, why is this happining again?
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Hello, Paul,
Yes, my workflow is similar to yours. I think the main thing is to do the photos first and the music last, as you are doing.
I put in my videos first, cropping out the parts I know I won't need. Then I put in the photos. I know that I will eventually have to crop the video clips again to get what I want with the photos, but initially I just put the photos in the correct order. Then I 'fix' the photos to be the right size, duration, etc.
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Then I evaluate where I want/need Ken Burns effects on my photos and add that. Sometimes I use Photo-to-Movie for a panning of a large group where I want to title the people.
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Last I add music.
Sometimes if the movie has a lot of short audio clips or many video clips and/or photos, I find that the playback becomes slow or stilted or the audio continues and the video lags.
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I then put the new QuickTime movie into a new iMovie project and use that as the movie I burn to DVD. I add music to it, add my chapter markers and then I am ready to use it in my iDVD project. Having placed chapter markers in the original iMovie makes it much easier to create those markers in the QT iMovie. You can open both iMovies at the same time and use the time codes for each marker.
Most of my movies are of family videos and photos for the year. Each one is nearly two hours. Some years require several DVDs, depending on the activities for that time; some years everything fits onto one DVD. I even went back to the earliest family photos we had.....from the 1890s...and have made DVDs of each side of the family as a history for our kids and grandkids.
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hi, i'm having a problem,
my software is the latest version, so is quicktime, all my updates are up to date, i'm not using an external hardrive.
i was creating a music video composed of all still pictures and everything was going fine untill today.
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i can no longer exit out the photo settings window the same way as before.
when pictures are added to the timeline they are much too long.
i'm unable to keep the ken burns affect box checked, it keeps unchecking itself and it wont allow me to change any photo settings on certain pictures and on the ones it will allow me to when i press "apply" or the checkmark it stalls and wont render the file (the red line doesn't fill and just stays there)
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can anyone help me? i've spent a massive amount of time on this video and would like to finish it. i dont know what the problem is. maybe i clicked something i shouldn't have?
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i'm estimating around _1000 pictures_ ... they are all being stored on the desktop ...
WOW!
... how long does your poor Mac need for booting??
The >40y old Xerox metaphor of a Desktop/Folders/trashbin had the concept of simulating reallife.. would you store ~1000 pics on your desk while glueing them into an album (ever glued 1k pics into an album?) ...?
I assume, your System is 'cluttered'. totally cluttered.
try to clean up ... in Finder, clean your File 'System'... create folders (many folders...), use the pre-installed structure your Mac came with (how about storing pictures in... ehm, Pictures?), why not using iLife as intended (import into iM from iPhoto), why not using the integrated 'File Management' of iPhoto to create albums, to give your mass of pics some structure, finally consider to use approbiate apps (if you try to create a stopmotion-like movie, QTpro or Boinx' istopmotion are better tools) ...
keep in mind, a Mac needs at last 10-15GB free on internal drive to act normal.
export as much as you can to external drives (firewire connected, 'MacOsExtended' formatted), don't forget to give these harddrives structure too .. you know how to create Folders in Finder?
after all is set and done, your desktop is clean, everything is in its place, use Disk Utility to check&repair... finally, reboot your Mac, give it a chance to 'recreate' itself in better shape
... and there's still a high chance, that the fragile file management of the 20$ consumer app iMovie is still overwhelmed by >1000 stills in one single project...

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Now, Apple's instructions for downloading older versions of apps is to do so from the Purchased list, not from the app's product page.
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6 has gone and put the Ken Burns setting behind a button. I want "Show Photo Settings" to be my default. I hate having to press the button each time I want to set Ken Burns on and off.

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