Show stopper: can't import tiff files with camera raw adjustments

For RAW NEF files (coming from a Nikon D80), Aperture doesn't pick up adjustments I've made in ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) when I import them, even though the .xmp "sidecar" files are sitting there in the folder next to the them. Do I have to do something to get Aperture to pay attention to the .xmp files?
Similarly, Aperture doesn't read ACR adjustments I've made to TIFF files. I've read on the web that adjustments made to TIFF files cannot be stored in "sidecar" xmp files. That's clearly true since I don't see the .xmp files sitting next to my tiff files in my image directory -- but my ACR adjustments are stored when I reload the TIFF files in ACR.
In any case, Aperture doesn't seem to recognize either RAW files with sidecar .xmp info, or TIFF files that have ACR adjustments baked in.
This is a show stopper for me and I'd love to use Aperture for its 'Faces' functionality. Does anyone know a fix for this issue?
Thanks!
Raphe

Thanks for the reply, Kirby
the kind of conversion you are talking about is likely a pipe dream.
I gave it a quick look myself just now. the .lrcat file that lightroom has isn't binary & looks just like a huge list of adjustment data for entries in the database. For example, the curves on one of my images looks like this:
ToneCurve = { 0,
0,
37,
38,
93,
148,
167,
223,
255,
255 },
So it wouldn't be difficult to write a .lrcat > .xmp exporter (basically going back from one Lightroom database to many .xmp files) or a batch .xmp > .lrcat exporter (going from many .xmp files to one Lightroom database).
Looking at the contents of Aperture's .aplibrary package, there's an xml record of all files entered in the database, and I found what looks like image edits in the 'versions' folder -- but unfortunately the edits are stored in a binary format.
Oh well, I guess this is why Aperture is a bit faster than Lightroom -- but will make it very difficult to write a converter to get edits into Aperture. & unless Apple adds edit info to their .xmp sidecar exporter (Export Masters) & includes a batch mode.. we wont be able to get info out of Aperture. So, for the moment, this apparent lack of an open format keeps Aperture from being a professional tool imho, compare to Lightroom.
..but for me there's no reason to switch from ACR to Lightroom because there's no facial recognition, and the curve editing utility is better in ACR.
Thanks for the comments, David.
I'll be sticking with ACR/Bridge for now -- I'd rather not split my library -- & hope that Lightroom adds some facial recognition functionality
Besides this, Aperture seems like a really nice product.
Cheers,
Raphe

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