Shuffle With Smart Playlist

Hey,
I've been having this problem for awhile, and hopefully someone can help me out with it. I just got my ipod about a month ago, also got the iTrip. For anyone who has the iTrip, they know that the stations are mixed in with the music in shuffle mode. So I created a 'Smart Playlist' to get rid of the stations. The only thing i'm having a problem with, is when I'm in my car and i want to play the smart play list (which by the way is called 'Griffin Technology) I don't know how to shuffle the songs. I don't wanna listen to every song in a row by the same artist. Does anyone know how to shuffle the songs in a 'smart playlist'?
Thank you

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
This is the same way you can shuffle normal playlists as well...
On your iPod go to settings-->shuffle and set it to songs.
Now go back to the main menu and go to music-->playlists and find your playlist. Once the name of the playlist is highlighted just hit play!
btabz

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Apple, Apple, Apple... (again)
Is it so difficult to let things, that are quite good, just there where they are??
After updating my iTunes, OS Lion and some other stuff 2 days ago, I have now a big problem with a smart Playlist in iTunes 10.6. Before updating all things was right.
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And this is not the first time Apple.
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I had to totally restore my volume !
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So please think before you delete any functions, who is needed by many people.
And if you did, maybe ask some users, that uses for example smart-playlists alot, if there is a problem about some changes, you want to add.
I hope anyone from Apple read this and also answer me. Because I´m upset about that.
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So, have a nice weekend.
Greetings from Germany.
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Welcome to Apple Discussions!
This is the same way you can shuffle normal playlists as well...
On your iPod go to settings-->shuffle and set it to songs.
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btabz

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Anyway, found this link about downgrading to an earlier version. I've just completed it and found one or two "errors" in the method, which I'll detail below
http://www.emacconsulting.com/apple/itunes/downgrade-itunes-11-to-itunes-10-7/
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Paste this into the the dialog: ~/Music/iTunes
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15) Delete the “iTunes Library” file.
16) Change the name of the “iTunes Library 2012-xx-xx.itl” to ”iTunes Library” with no .itl extension.
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Apple - please correct these bugs before releasing any new versions of iTunes... you've made a very large number of people unhappy

Need help with smart playlists

Hi all,
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Windows XP iPod mini 2nd gen.

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tt2

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My most recent example occured using a playlist that pulls songs I haven't played lately:
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Live Updating
I sync the playlist to my Shuffle, play some songs, and sync back. Sometimes the playcount and Last Played date updates are applied to the wrong songs.
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I synced the same playlist with Live Updating turned off after playing 5-6 songs on my Shuffle. Some of the playcount/date data was updated correctly, some wasn't. Importantly (?), the wrong data is on both the computer and the Shuffle(of course, I can't see the data on the Shuffle before I plug it into the computer)
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I've seen the similar behavior thing: songs that were supposed to be excluded because of playcount rules being included anyway on my iPhone. The playlist works fine on iTunes. I believe that the fact that the songs aren't matching is by design with randomly selected playlists, as it avoids complicated syncing issues between devices. However, the fact that songs are included which shouldn't be is simply a bug.
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