Shut Down or Sleep
Generally speaking, is it better to shut down your Mac or put it to sleep? A recent comment made to me about, "how hard it is on computers" to regularly shut them down and then restart them has made me wonder.
Thanks for your response.
Sorry to drag up an old thread but it seems a little inconclusive.
I shut down my Mac all the time and I wonder what affect this is having on the equipment. I did have a HD crash after having the new Mac for less than 6 months. I used to just put that in Sleep Mode. My concern is the ambient temperature in the room where the computer is and that is why I now shut it down whenever I'm not using it. I live in Hawaii and my house faces intense direct afternoon sun everyday of the year. The room temp would be close to 100F on most days until I get home and crank up the A/C. Given those facts would it still be safe to use Sleep mode?
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This just started to happen to my mac pro quad intel running the latest SNOW software. My mac shuts down in sleep mode. I tried to zap pram, but it ill not allow me to do this.
I also check the internal battery using a small program and its a full charge. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Thanks,
Tonygodlovestodance,
your Mid 2012 needs 1600 MHz memory modules. Is your currently installed RAM of this variety?
In your current setup, is it your 1 TB HDD or your 256 GB SSD that is in the optical drive bay?
One thing you can try is this: boot your MacBook Pro into Recovery mode by holding down a Command key and the R key as it starts up. Once the Mac OS X Utilities menu appears, select Disk Utility. On the left-hand side of the Disk Utility window, select your internal disk’s boot partition (typically called “Macintosh HD”). On the right-hand side, press the Verify Disk button if it’s not greyed out; if it is greyed out, or if it reports that errors were found, press the Repair Disk button. Once the verification/repair is completed, exit Disk Utility and select Restart from the Apple menu to restart in normal mode. Does it still crash because of an extended sleep? -
How can I turn off this "feature" and have the power button bring me the shut down / restart / sleep dialog by default again?
With the position of the power button on the Retina MacBooks, any mistake turns off the screen in the middle of a presentation or any activity using a projector or big screen — a huge waste of time to wake up the display, enter password, have the projector sync back, watch audience disconnecting from what was being discussed, etc.
This is very annoying, and seems to add to the increasing collection of options Apple decided to make by itself instead of allowing the user to choose.
Come on Apple guys, I'm using my Mac because I want options and lots of preferences to tweak to my needs.
If I needed the lobotomized version I'd be using my iPad!
Any way (official or hack) to change this button back to its proper funcionality?
Thanks!cterra wrote:
How can I turn off this "feature" and have the power button bring me the shut down / restart / sleep dialog by default again?
Not what you want, but you can get the shut down / restart / sleep dialog by holding the power button -
Mid-2011 i7. iMac and USB shuts down on sleep
Just got a refurb i7 21" and am loving it. But I was having trouble with it shutting down when going to sleep and therefore not waking from sleep without a full boot up.
After finding this closed thread (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2258706?start=0&tstart=0), I wanted to confirm that unfortunately even after the Lion 10.7.2 update, some powered USB hubs (for example Newer Tech 7 port powered about 1 year old) still cause the iMac to shut down on sleep.
A new Belkin 7 port powered ("high speed for 2.0 or 1.1 devices") does the trick and now the iMac will wake from sleep properly and not shut down.
Just wanted to pass this on to others who might be having trouble and wondering if their motherboard is fried or something.
Also, if a USB port stops working, do an SMC reset (unplug, hold power button down).Just got a refurb i7 21" and am loving it. But I was having trouble with it shutting down when going to sleep and therefore not waking from sleep without a full boot up.
After finding this closed thread (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2258706?start=0&tstart=0), I wanted to confirm that unfortunately even after the Lion 10.7.2 update, some powered USB hubs (for example Newer Tech 7 port powered about 1 year old) still cause the iMac to shut down on sleep.
A new Belkin 7 port powered ("high speed for 2.0 or 1.1 devices") does the trick and now the iMac will wake from sleep properly and not shut down.
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Hello. My MacBook is having all sorts of problems and they just started occuring recently.
1. It shuts down when it's 'sleeping'. When I open it, I have to press the button to turn it back on. Sometimes it wouldn't reboot and the log in page would pop up, but rarely.
2. While I'm using my macbook, a window would ask me if I want to 'shut down, restart, sleep, cancel'. Or something like that. It would do this every few minutes.
3. I noticed that my screensaver would go back to Flurry/default.
Could this be a battery issue? I noticed that it says 'replace soon'. I will definitely go to a genius bar, but I'm too busy right now with school I don't know when I can make a trip to the nearest Apple store.You can get a new battery fairly cheap on eBay if you have the Early 2008 MacBook with the easily removable battery.
Black Batteries http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=macbook+black+battery&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=12 &_dmpt=Laptop_Batteries&_odkw=macbook+white+battery&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m 270.l1313
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I have reset the SMC and PRAM but it makes no difference.
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Just bought a brand new 27" iMac (3.4gHz Intel Core i7) which shuts down when sleeps, then won't restart (ie completely dead).
In order to restart, I have to unplug the power cord from the computer, hold power key down for 10secs, replug in and it then starts up. I returned to the store and they spent a couple days letting it go to sleep etc and overnight and for them it was fine. Woke up no problems. They returned it to me yesterday.
So I set it all up again, left it overnight and this morning it was dead again. So now it leaves me to wonder if it's something I have plugged into it.
I have a new Seagate 3TB external hard drive hooked up using USB3.0. This is plugged directly into the back of the computer.
I also have a powered USB hub plugged into the computer which has regular USB stuff such as printer, graphics tablet and another external hard drive (this one is older LaCie 500gb, and have put it into a new USB 3.0 case as well for the arrival of the new iMac (this had an old firewire hard drive case). However this hard drive is switched off at the case and is not being used.
I believe it could possibly be the Seagate 3TB disk causing this problem, but it works fine during the day while I am using the computer, it's just when I either leave it at lunch time to go to a meeting or walk etc or overnight that I come back and it has shut down....leaving me to believe that it's due to the computer going to sleep.
Has anyone else had a similar problem with a Seagate drive? Today I'm conducting an experiment and heading off for lunch with both hard drives unhooked. If I come back and the computer wakes up from a click of the mouse or keyboard as it should, I will plug in one hard drive at a time and re-test. I will leave the Seagate for last, as I don't think it is the old LaCie disk (which is off).
For reference sake, I also have a NAS running off my network through Airport Extreme etc and have my old iMac hooked up to the network too, but don't believe this is the problem.
Initially I did put in some after market RAM (another 8GB) and though that might be the problem, but I removed and it still reacted the same way (plus store I bought it from again booted up fine and woke up fine at their shop after I had taken RAM out too).
Will keep this post updated with my next test (letting computer sleep without either hard drive in), but keen to hear if anyone has had any similar experiences with Seagate disks/cases and the new iMacs.
Cheers,
KristinHey kristinandmike,
I had a similar problem shortly after I bought my 27" iMac. Here is an excerpt from my discussion:
"As BDAqua suggested, I started the process of elimination by shutting down the externals and just leaving up one of the USB drives and using the computer until time to shut it off. After eliminating 2 of the 3 drives I figured it had to be the last one. That drive is a Seagate GoFlex Desk version that allows different bases with differing connectivity. I had previously used FW800 to connect but had switched to USB3 on the new computer. I went ahead and got a Thunderbolt to FW adaptor cable and switched this drive back to Firewire rather than USB3. So far so good."
For some reason the Seagate I was using didn't agree with the USB3 on the Mac. -
Powerbook 17" G4 automatically shuts down in sleep mode
Powerbook 17" G4 automatically shuts down in sleep mode intermittently. When press power button to bring it back up, it takes a very long time to reboot and the date is set to Dec 31, 1969. It comes back up finally, but this is irritating.
Thanks for any help,Hi Reaskt
Have you tried using Temperture Monitor to monitor your temps? Maybe it is overheating. Also it sounds like your backup battery is dead, that's why the clock reset's it's self. If you still have applecare I would give apple a call a soon I could. To me it looks like you would need a new logic board. I realy hope that you have applecare. Also have you tried an Erase and Install? Have you tried running Disk Utility booted from your install CD?
Post back when you get more info
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MacPro shuts down in sleep mode
MACPRO 3.1 2x 2.8 Quad core Intel Xeon 8GB Ram ATI Radeon HD 5770 Mac Cinema HD 23 inch OSX 10.6.8.
If I allow or select sleep mode through either keyboard shortcuts or apple menu it immediately shuts down I can keep it running but half asleep (screen at rest ) if I have an app using the internet for example Safari using radio stations ; if however there is no app using the internet then the computer will shut down when sleep mode kicks in.
This seems to be a resent phenomena I have changed the graphics card from a Nvidia since the Nvidia was dying ( occasional freezes and wavy faint blue horizontal lines) although the sleep problem surfaced before swapping cards; I am not sure whether this is a hardware issue or a combined software hardware issue.
Anyone else having similar sleep problems ?
The computer is working fine apart from this one issue.
We are in the midst of summer here so the room temperature is an average of 30˚C at the moment can this have anything to do with the sleep issues?Power or other problems related to unexpected system sleep, shutdown, lights or fans justify an SMC reset. Read all the steps.
Before Resetting the SMC
Try each of the following steps in this order before you reset the SMC. Test the issue after completing each troubleshooting step to determine if the issue still occurs.
Press Command + Option + Escape to force quit any application that is not responding.
Put your Mac to sleep by choosing the Apple () menu from the upper-left menu bar and then choosing Sleep. Wake the computer after it has gone to sleep.
Restart your Mac by choosing the Apple () menu from the upper-left menu bar and then choosing Restart.
Shut down your Mac by choosing the Apple () menu from the upper-left menu bar and then choosing Shut Down.
Resetting the SMC for Mac Pro, Intel-based iMac, Intel-based Mac mini, or Intel-based Xserve
Shut down the computer.
Unplug the computer's power cord.
Wait fifteen seconds.
Attach the computer's power cord.
Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the computer.
After completing the above please determine if the problems also occur in "Safe Mode":
Safe Mode or "Safe Boot" is a troubleshooting mode that bypasses all third party system extensions and loads only required system components. Read about it: Starting up in Safe Mode
You must disable FileVault before you can start your Mac in Safe Mode.
Starting your Mac in Safe Mode will take longer than usual, graphics will not render smoothly, audio is disabled on some Macs, and some programs (iTunes for example) may not work at all.
Merely starting your Mac in Safe Mode is not intended to resolve the problem, it's to observe its performance without certain additional components.
To end Safe Mode restart your Mac normally. Shutdown will take longer as well. -
No response Shut down or Sleep.
Mini won't Shut down or Sleep. Sleeps on schedule, not by request... should I give it a glass of warm milk or press the power button?
Are you getting any messages...?
If not, reset the SMC as per > Resetting the System Management Controller
1. Shut down the computer.
2. Unplug the computer's power cord.
3. Wait fifteen seconds.
4. Attach the computer's power cord.
5. Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the computer. -
1st Gen iMac G5 doesn't turn on--after shutting down during sleep
So I bought an IMAC G5 17/1.6/256/80/COMBO when they first came out. Within the first year and a half I had to get two logic boards replaced. Fast foward to about 4 months after Applecare ran out and the machine began shutting down instead of going to sleep. Then, last week--nothing--wouldn't even turn on. So I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it started fine. Two days ago same thing only now it won't turn on at all. So I took off the cover, internal power button doesn't work--tried reseting SMU and still nothing. LED 2 doesn't come on at all, but LED 1 isn't constant, it flickers (don't know if that's normal). So I assume it's either logic board or power supply.
Now, I've read the Repair Extension program about this model, but unfortunately it only goes out three years (curious because that's how long my AppleCare lasted). And I found it odd that after getting it fixed twice it would still have these defective parts. So I called the support line trying to explain the situation. After being on hold for 20 min. the guy came back and said my warranty was up so I couldn't even talk to someone on the phone about the problem. I could get it fixed, but it was going to cost me.
Anyone have any advice? I was going to get another computer later this year (although will probably change my mind about getting another Mac after this experience), and I know fixing this one will be pretty expensive--something I can't afford right now. Does anyone know the rationale behind a) three year cutoff and b) Apple not informing owners that they'd better get it checked out before period runs out. And I guess as a last resort if it winds up being too expensive to fix, anyone know if people buy broken IMACs? Talk about frustration, I didn't even have to go through this type of nonsense when I used Windows.
Thanks for your help.Welcome to Discussions - try calling Apple Customer Service 800-767-2775 and politely telling them your tale, then ask for a fix or a new computer.
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NEW MBPr keeps shutting down on sleep, Not mounting Ext HD + AWESOME Apple Store Experience. :)
I've been using apple products for almost 10 years now (from iPods to iPhones and MBPs). I just got a BRAND NEW MBP Retina last December (2012), I was supposed to use it for school this January, because of it's claim for speed and graphics. I even had it customized!!! Thinking I'd get BETTER performance,I upgraded the Memory and the Processor!!! I wanted to do the HD too but it was too pricey (But of course, they dropped their prices recently. For the same amount I paid in December, I could have gotten better today. *censored curse words here*)
By the time I used the MBPr in January,THE THING KEPT SHUTTING DOWN ON ME!!! Whenever I'd put it to sleep, IT WOULDN'T COME BACK ON!!! I'dlose all the information and files I've been working on for hours! Not only would I have to do them again, the MBP would give me such a DIFFICULT time trying to switch it back on! And when it finally would, it would say something like "Your computer shut down unexpectedly. Would you like to open the programs that were on before it shut down?" Even if I'd click yes, none of my files were recovered.
In addition, 3 out of 10 times it wouldn't mount my External Hard Drive!!! And of course it has to be the times when I'm in a hurry to access important files. To me, this IS an issue. A BIG one. NOT fun, trust me. I know the problem isn't with my External HD because I still have my old MBP (late 2009) and it works fine there, I've repeatedly used it on my sister's and mom's MBP too and there's been no problem whatsoever. It's just with this supposedly "new" MBP Retina.
So I went to the Apple store on 5th Ave, and they scheduled me an appointment about an hour and a half later, which was alright, but for the first time (EVER) the lady who scheduled my appointment gave me some attitude. She set me up for an appointment at 1:45, so just to make sure, I repeated it to her "I can wait around. So that's 1:45?" And she looks at me and says "What? Did you want it LATER? Huh?" Power tripping much? First time I've encountered that kind of customer service, from an apple store, no less.
Anyway, the appointments are their form of "organized chaos", so I didn't mind waiting my turn. The place was pretty packed, as it always is, but I decided to wait it out. My appointment time came around so I checked in on the Apple Store App and again with one of those in blue shirts with an iPad, and he told me to wait for a chair to open and to grab it and someone will come check my MBP. It took a while before a seat was made available, but when one came, I took it. Fast forward, 15 minutes AFTER my appointment time, not a single Apple representative bothered to even make eye contact, ask what time my appointment was or if I needed any help at all. I tried talking to them/calling their attention, but it was as if I was invisible. Just perfect!
Someone FINALLY called my name.. Thirty minutes AFTER my appointment time. I didn't mind waiting an hour and a half for my appointment because I understand that's how the system works. But when my turn comes around, I expect them to keep their end of the bargain too. But I guess that was too much to ask. So anyway, this guy/genius checked my laptop and ran diagnostics on it, I think he used the loghog(?) and it was all there. It had the exact log of how many times the **** thing shut down on me!!!! He said they'd need to do further tests on the MBP, which seemed logical. But he went on to tell me that if they find anything wrong with the hardware, I'd have to be okay with them replacing it with REUSED parts of other laptops!!!! ***?!???? I bought that with hard earned money! Blood sweat and tears. I saved up for that for soooooo long to get something brand new, and here you are telling me, "It's out of the 14-day warranty period, so if we find something wrong with it, you'll have to be okay with us replacing it with USED PARTS!!!" (Non-verbatim, but yeah, he gave me some sugar-coated version of THAT!) I mean, WHAT THE **** IS THAT?!?? Is that what Apple has been reduced to now?!??? Like I said, I've been with them for almost 10 years, and I've influenced my family to use Apple products because PRIOR TO THIS, my experience with them has been EXCELLENT. They've always been superb. I've never had this kind of problem with them when it came to all my (our for that matter) apple merchandise. But now?! I can't believe it. Not only the quality of the laptop was unacceptable, now, even their service is too apparently!!
Way to go Apple Customer Sevice!
Have any of you had the same problems with your MBPr? How were you able to fix it? I paid hard earned money for this, and I really really would still want it to work. I called customer service and instead of apologizing for giving me a lemon, and unacceptable quality, the customer service rep, passed me on to a senior manager who told me exactly this:
Me: Ma'am, I bought this customized and BRAND NEW. I think the quality that you've given me is unacceptable, and I hope you understand that.
Senior Manager: Well, you know, it's a machine. It's like buying a car. It breaks.
Awesome, huh? In any case, my MBPr is with them and here's to hoping I at least get the MBPr life span than that I paid for, even if they do give me subpar quality and service. Has anyone had the same problems with their MBPr? Is this a common problem with them or was mine really just a lemon? Any input will help. Thank you!same problem, it's been happening to me for a week or two now i'm thinking about backing up my documents and just wiping it completely, see if that works. Has anyone else tried this? I'm loosing time and have already lost a good few hours of work as it just crashes randomly. need help!!!
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Macbook Pro will not shut down/restart/sleep/log out after Mountain Lion update
Dear all,
I upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion yesterday and since then I have encountered a few issues:
- The only way I can shut down my computer is to hold down the power button or entering commands in terminals. The commands under the Apple menu do not work at all. No window opens when I click on it.
- The about this mac, force to quit, sleep, shut down and restart button, log out do not work.
- When I restart my computer, it takes 3-4 minutes to log into the account (it used to be less than 1 minute, I have an SSD).
I have tried all of these solutions to solve the problem:
- I created another user account and I do not encounter the same problems. It logs in quickly, can shut down etc.
- I have repaired the disk and the disk authorisations using disk utility
- I have cleaned up all caches and did maintenance using OnyX
- I have cleaned up all ACL using terminal
- I have never installed Kapersky (this was the cause of the problem for some people in the past)
I am starting to be a bit short on ideas. All I know is that there is a problem with my user account. I do not want to do a clean install as I have quite a lot of work stored on this user account and preferences that took me ages to set up. If I have to start fresh I will but I would rather avoid this extreme solution.
Has anyone else experienced such an issue? If yes, how did you solve it?
Thank you very muchHad the same problem and this worked for me:
Try deleting following two items:
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.plist
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.dock.db
Make sure you take a screenshot of your current dock since deleting these files will reset your dock to default.
Now open terminal and do a sudo reboot w/ your password.
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Quad: end-of-day: shut down or sleep?
Hello.
Took delivery ten days ago of top-end Quad with 8GB ram and Apple 30-inch display. WHAT a configuration. (Had been working on a 17-inch G4 laptop for 3 years, which had become my desktop machine, in fact. Needn't tell you what a quantum leap in performance that has been. Someone said that the Quad might be the final farewell before Intel macs. If that's the case, what a farewell it has been. Tho' I'm not a hardware expert, it's hard to imagine how they could have done better with these new machines.)
Now... to the point of my post:...
I'm wondering what the conventional wisdom is with regard to shutting down at the end of a day's work.
Do you all leave your machines running overnight? (I seem to recall that, since os x, macs do their own 'overnight' maintenance tasks, but I can't remember where I came upon that info). Am I "stressing" my machine, starting it up/shutting down each day?
Thanks in advance,
Hugh
Quad/2.5GHz/8GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.3)I'm wondering what the conventional wisdom is with
regard to shutting down at the end of a day's work.
Mine sleeps. No sense burning electrons when they are not needed. Just my $0.02. But YMMV.
If you are worried about those maintenance tasks not running in the middle of the night see ...
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Using my mac everyday for an hour or so, should i shut down or sleep?
Just wondering if it would be better to shut down my computer or make it sleep because i use it everyday for about an hour(web browsing, musuc, email)?... and i want to get the longest battery life possible... thanks! i have the newest 13 inch mac book pro
If you use it for, say, 1-2 hours and you were to leave it sleeping the rest of the day but unplugged, the battery would eventually drain. 22-23 hours of sleep will cause the battery to drain around 10-15% of its capacity and one hour of charge will not be able to replentish that, so eventually the battery will deplete. Plus the short and incomplete charge cycle would be murder on the battery.
On the other hand, leaving it perpetually plugged in kind of defeats the purpose of a portable, plus is not recommended by Apple for battery longevity.
So, turn it off and resign yourself to having to wait a few more seconds for startup.
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