Shutdown and crash issues on MDD

I am continuing to investigate a problem where my MDD crashes - (and maybe it's called a hang?). The program I'm working with stops functioning and I end up with a spinning beachball that cannot be force quit - making powering down with the power button the only option. This crash also seems to happen if more than a few windows are open - it just seems arbitrary, and happens often enough that I can't pinpoint a problem. I should say that I have two other MDDs that work fine. This one I bought 2nd hand because all it needed was a PSU, which I replaced. I also added a new startup drive (installing OS 10.4.11) and 2 two-TB SATA drives with a Firmtek/Seritek 1S2 controller card.
In response to my earlier post on this, BD Aqua suggested I try looking at the Console to see if I could find any related information or reports there (I'm looking in the system.log). When the problem happened again, as it invariably does, I rebooted, looked in Console and found: MDNSResponder: NOTE Wide-Area Sevice Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay 192....followed by 5 more digits... And I also see: exited abnormally: Hangup And: Startup items failed to properly start.
I did a brief search through the forums and came up with a possibly similar message query in a post - answered in fact by BD Aqua.
I'm wondering if this solution could solve my problem as it seems to have done for the party who asked the question, below (although they have a different model and also that the issue didn't cause him a problem, as it has me:
defective DNS relay?
Posted: Feb 17, 2009 2:18 PM
mDNSResponder: NOTE: Wide-Area Service Discovery disabled to avoid crashing defective DNS relay
This has appeared in the system profiler system log for quite a while now - noticed it a few months ago - as far as I can tell it's not causing trouble. There's an address at the end after the word "relay" xxx.xxx.x.x (with actual numbers of course).
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it means?
Thanks!
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Re: defective DNS relay?
Posted: Feb 17, 2009 2:44 PM in response to: estabroo
Hi estabroo,
Quit any Browser or Internet APP like Mail, etc.
Then in Network>TCP/IP>DNS Servers:, for that Interface, paste these 3 numbers in...
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
127.0.0.1
Use Terminal & Terminal command to Flush DNS Cache Tiger to 10.5.1...
lookupd -flushcache
ENTER
Reboot.
Anyway, that's an excerpt from what I found. The writer said it seemed to make the sys. profiler msg. go away...but in my case, the computer stops responding.
I have also tried different mice in different USB ports - same problem

I wanted to know if that was something to try...
I'd try it...
Terminal commands to Flush DNS Cache Tiger to 10.5.1...
lookupd -flushcache
Leopard 10.5.2 or greater...
dscacheutil -flushcache
Can it be a hardware issue?
Easily.
or is there anything else I could try?
Did we see if it shuts down when running in Safe Mode? Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup).
Did you try Applejack...
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/19596
After installing, reboot holding down CMD+s, (+s), then when the DOS like prompt shows, type in...
applejack AUTO
Then let it do all 5 of it's things.
At least it'll eliminate some questions if it doesn't fix it.
The 6 things it does are...
Correct any Disk problems.
Repair Permissions.
Clear out Cache Files.
Repair/check several plist files.
Dump the VM files for a fresh start.
Trash old Log files.
First reboot will be slower, sometimes 2 or 3 restarts will be required for full benefit... my guess is files relying upon other files relying upon other files!
Disconnect the USB cable from any UPS so the system doesn't shut down in the middle of the process.

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