Shutdown during gameplay MSI N580GTX Lightning GeForce GTX 580 Frozr III

Hello everyone,
I recently purchased a brand new n580 GTX Lightning Frozr III and received my card yesterday. The installation went smoothly and it booted into Windows fine, until I ran into problems running benchmarks.
I'm a little hazy on my system specs, but I will get you more accurate specs when I have the sheet in front of me:
The specs:
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IntelDuoCore 2
2.0 GHZ
1 kilowatt PSU
Liquid Cooling
Windows 7 64bit
8 GB SDRAM
Ageia PhysX card (Removed, most people don't even know these existed!)
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I knew from the beginning that my processor was going to bottleneck my CPU, but the performance is way better than when I used the Geforce 8800 GTX SLI settings.
The Problem:
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Mafia 2 - Max settings, including PhysX, aliasing, resolution
A few minutes into the benchmark, basically as soon as the car explodes.
Computer shut down.
Crysis Warhead - Drove down a random rode and crashed into an exploding barrel.
Computer shut down.
APB - Managed to drive around the city for a few minutes, no explosions, no fighting nothing.
Went into the garage, to look at some cars.
Computer shut down.
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So I'm having trouble narrowing down what the problem is. I don't think it's overheating because my liquid cooling is doing its job. I don't think it's a driver conflict because I ran driver sweeper and cleaned out all of the old Nvidia drivers.
So, either my card is consuming too much power or my PSU isn't outputting enough power.
I will get specific system specs later on.

Quote from: johnnyw on 09-June-11, 18:50:51
Total system shutdown, if thats really the case is most likely psu issue that it dont deliver enough power card and overcurrent protection kicks in and shut the system down to prevent damage. Ive had exatly that issue in past when tried to run GTX470 SLI with 650w psu After i upgraded upgraded to 750w everything worked silky smooth after that.
That's right, its what i tell him here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=149377.msg1109284#msg1109284
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If it would be driver related issue it wouldnt cause shudown and would bem ore likly to receive bluescreen or some windwos driver recovery.
This is a separate, second case when he test VGA it friends machine. He don't have shutdown issues there.
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wattage of the psu:s dont really tell the whole truth these days. Some older 1000w psu:s with multiple 12v rails are actually worse for modern power hungry gfx cards than modern single 12v rail 600w psu
Yep
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http://hecgroupusa.com/products/switching-power-supply/80-plus/ZEPHYR-MX-750/
75A current
hec Zephyr MX 750 750W
Peak Output ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91
SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
You need ampere @+12V not amperes on something else.[video card is powered by +12V line]
This 75A is not related to +12V lines, which is unknown for this split 2x30A, with total under 60A for sure [guess probably around up to 50A combined[if the PSU support combined mode]]

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0000: 00C00000 00000001 00000000 C005000D
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0058: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0060: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
0068: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
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