Shutting down my Mac Pro Retina properly?
When I shut down my Mac Pro, I close all apps except the Finder. I've noticed that sometimes when I start up again, the Apple logo and the loading bar don't appear, and when I go into the desktop, the Finder is still open on the folder it was on before I shut it down the last time. But there's still the normal start up sound. I think this is because when I see the screen go black, I close the laptop screen straight away, and it hasn't truly finished shutting down yet. I've been trying to wait for a minute before closing the lid after the screen goes black, and it's been working: the next time I start up my Mac the Apple logo and loading bar appears as usual, and when I get on to the desktop, the Finder isn't open on anything.
My question is, is it really bad for the Mac if I close the lid before it properly shuts down, and I leave it in a kind of limbo state before I start it up next time? Because sometimes I'm in a hurry and I don't have time to wait a minute before closing the lid.
Hello animefan4eva,
After reviewing your post, it sounds like you were trying to shut down the computer but closed the lid befor it finished. I would recommend that you read this article, it may be able to help the issue.
Mac notebooks: Wait for your computer to fully shut down before closing the display - Apple Support
If you close the display on a MacBook Pro, MacBook, MacBook Air, PowerBook, or iBook while it is shutting down, the computer may not shut down properly.
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
Have a nice day,
Mario
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Never heard that advice before. The kb certainly does not say that.
Big difference from your statement compare ""Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time."
I think using the battery regularly is a better interpretation.
I would submit that is the way most people use their Portables, close the lid.
You absolutely misunderstood I referred to BOTH "on power AND in sleep mode"
not to: "closing the lid ,... sleep mode"
Using the battery regularly can mean anything as a generalization.
That advice on parasitic charging is correct. Which referres to BOTH in sleep AND on power... not however to merely "in sleep mode"
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Nor does / can Etrecheck report on physical abuse of any macbook, logically.
Battery abuse / misuse is a type of physical abuse, chemistry of the battery abuse, however its internal.
I did not say the KB article said that, what it says:
http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html
"Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time."
So, you misunderstood.
Apples recommendation refers to micro-cycling the battery and to parasitic charging in the above quote, that it doesnt elaborate on the specifics of same
is irrelevant.
The implication from same is exactly this
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However if you do not plan on using your notebook for several hours, turn it off (plugged in or otherwise), since you do not want your Macbook ‘both always plugged in and in sleep mode’.
A lot of battery experts call the use of Lithium-Ion cells the "80% Rule", meaning use 80% of the full charge or so, then recharge them for longer overall life. The only quantified damage done in the use of Lithium Ion batteries are instances where the internal notebook battery is “often drained very low”, this is bad general use of your notebook battery.
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http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1446
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Heat (due to environmental conditions or due to rapid discharges from heavy use = gaming / video editing)
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