Sick Of This - Creative Zen Vision:M isn't recognized by SO

Hi everyone,
My PC doesn't recognice my Creative Zen Vision:M 30GB, it used to show my mp3 player as connected before, but since last week neither my PC nor the Creative Media Explorer can't connect to the player.
I have reverted the Microsoft Windows Media Player to the v0.
My SO is XP SP3.
I already have installed the Creative Media Source.
I couldn't get into "reboot mode" on my mp3 player 'cause it has run out of battery.
Thanks in advance.

Zen Vision M 309Well, I had my zen for going on 3 years...Strangest things is that it will not turn on at all.. I tried all the online documents
-Resetting it with the USB (nothing plugged in , using the back ports)<-- in which my computer does not recognize the device even if i change to another computer or another USB port; i even purchased another USB cord and same results
- I bought a wall charger (left it plugged in overnight); nothing i only see the CREATIVE screen that displays, doesn't respond to any buttons I push
Same two?effects will wall charging/ computer charging
-When plugged into computer or wall sometimes it will show the CREATIVE screen, or sometimes it will show a blinking light above where the power is...
I tried also to reset it while it powers on and it doesn't do anything
When trying to update the firmware, a message says that the device is not connected when it is..
This is becoming expensi've, and i cannot find my receipt to even get a warranty,,, please help

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,Creative zen : vision M 30gb strange problem. Hi people,
My mp3 player is 2 and a half years old. A few months ago he didn't charge anymore. ?I thought i could repair it by buying a new battery and install him in my mp3.
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Stijn van Vilsteren?
DUTCH?
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Squipy wrote:
Hi, I stopped using this MP3 for about 2 or so years because I bought a new one. I decided to start using it again and downloaded all the required software but as soon as I unplugged the MP3 from the power outlet, the player died. I can't get it to start up without plugging it into a power outlet. I think it has rechargable battery? Why didn't it recharge itself?
My second enquiry is about the capacity of the player. When my player was empty, I went into "Information" and it said Total Space: 28GB and Free Space: 2GB. Why is free space only 2GB? Shouldn't it be 28 as well?
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