Siebel 8 to 8.1 upgrade

I am trying to find the steps for a Siebel 8 to 8.1 upgrade its obviously not a full upgrade that you would have from 7 to 8 where can I find the process overview

Hi,
Sorry but you are most definitely wrong. This is a full upgrade (not a fix pack or quick fix) and it will require ALL of the steps that a 7.x upgrade would take.
Here is how Siebel versioning works.
First letter – major version. E.g. 6, 7 , 8. Full upgrade required.
Second letter – minor version. E.G. 8.0, 8.1, 8.2. Full upgrade required. Just think about 7.5 vs 7.8 – of course you would need to do a full upgrade. How can you possibly thing 8.0 vs 8.1 will be any different.
Also – you need to be on 8.0 SIA since you want to upgrade to 8.1 SIA. If you are on 8.0 SEA it will take two steps to get to 8.1 SIA. We just completed such a two-step SEA 8.0 to SIA 8.1 upgrade and it is not too bad if you know what you are doing and have done many such two-step upgrades before.
HTH,
Robert Ponder

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Hi,
I'm new to Siebel Upgrade and I'm trying to figure out the upgrade process searching on the bookshelf and white papers (best practices).
I still can't comprehend the upgrade architecture and where the new Siebel sw (for ex. Siebel 8 in my case) has to be installed:
Let's suppose to have 3 starting environments: development (7.8), test/production replication (7.8) and production (7.8).
According to the bookshelf there's an initial phase (and this is valid for development environment too) called "upgrade infrastructure" in which they talk about "upgrading" the server, gateway, SWSE, etc. and about installing Siebel software.
For example at pag. 26 in Upgrade Guide version 8.1, during the development environment upgrade explanation, you can read:
"...Upgrade the Gateway Name Server, Siebel Servers, and Siebel Web Server Extension (SWSE).
For information upgrading these Siebel Enterprise components, see Siebel Installation Guide for the operating system you are using.
3 - Install the Siebel Database Server files on the Siebel Server you will use to perform the upgrade.
You only need to install the database server files for the database type that you are upgrading.
4 Install language packs for your currently deployed languages and any new languages...."
Now, starting with a 7.8 development environment, what do they mean: Do I need to install on the same development box (where the 7.8 already resides) also a new 8 development environment (server, gateway, etc.) in order to execute the development upgrade process?
And then, should I install another new 8 environment on the Production/Test machine, in order to perform the production/test environment?
Finally, should I use the test machine (once all is tested as the new production environment?
Probably I'm a bit confused. Can you help me?
Thank you,
Best Regards

Your upgrade process depends on how you want to carry out.
For a Inplace upgrade, whicih means you will be using the existing hardware where earlier version exists, you need to uninstall the earlier version install the new version and the kick of your siebel database upgrade.
The other process is where you obtain new hardware, in this case install new version of siebel software as per requirements and then start your siebel database upgrade. For this you may need to replicate your existing siebel database.
This process applies to all the environments.

Siebel 8.1.1.8 upgrade from 8.1.1.0 - host with multiple components

Hi all,
I'm running some tests of an update from Siebel SIA 8.1.1.0 to 8.1.1.8 in preparation for a Production upgrade. Our entire estate is Windows based, currently running Windows Server 2008. The update is not working as I expected.
On one machine I have the Gateway and a Siebel Server (Object Manager). On another machine, I have a Siebel Server (eDocument).
- Upgrading the single server (eDocument) using the new OUI installer seems to work fine
- Upgrading the host with Gateway AND Siebel Server (Object Manager) seems to fail - where a DLL exists in both Gateway AND Server (i.e. sssaadmn.dll), only the Gateway DLL gets updated
The result is that the Siebel Server (Object Manager) on the same host as the Gateway fails to start, with 'cannot load xxx.dll' appearing throughout the server and component logs. The single server (eDocument) seems to start fine with all components showing as 'Running' and visible through srvrmgr.
Has anyone performed an update with the 8.1.1.8 OUI based installers and had a similar problem? Any idea how to resolve?
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Hi all,
Looks like OUI can't cope with files with the Windows 'read only' attribute set. It will simply skip them altogether, without error. :(
Anyway, unsetting the read only attribute across the SBA81 folder, prior to running the upgrade, seems to have resolved the problem for us.
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Am having Siebel OLTP 7.8.2.14 and Siebel analytics applicaiton is 7.8.5.

Hi
I am having Siebel OLTP 7.8.2.14 and Siebel analytics applicaiton is 7.8.5. on solaris.
we are planning to go for upgrade plat form + application upgrade to OBIEE 10g.
1) Do i have to do any patch on Siebel OLTP for obiee upgrade
2) first plat upgradation happens and followed application upgrade. correct me if iam not correct.
how to find out how may customisations on RPD/informatica/DAC.
what is the version in obiee 10g( 10.1.3.4 or which is latest in OBIEE 10g only)
do i have to upgrade the informatica which is currenlty on 7.1.2. Please can you provide me inputs
Thansk in advance.
Cheers
Jag
Edited by: user2333445 on 16/02/2011 03:20

I would recommend you speak to Oracle directly about this rather than seek help here.

Upgrading from Siebel 8.0.1.1 to 8.1.1.2

Hey guys,
I'm trying to upgrade my Siebel Application from 8.0.1.1 to 8.1.1.2 and I have found a site that recommends to download the patch 9318567 but when going to the Oracle Support site the platforms show Microsoft Windows(32-bit) We have our application in Windows Server Enterprise Edition and I can't find the patches for it on the Oracle Support site. So could anyone help me with my problem please? And I noticed that the description of one of the patches is SEBL_ARU so I'm wondering what does the ARU stand for because maybe it can help with my problem or not I'm not sure. If not then if anyone knows where can I get the patch for upgrading to 8.1.1.2 would really help.
Thank you,

Hamzeh
Sorry, due to security and legal reasons, attachments are not supported on this forum so I cannot provide a screenshot.
If you look on the right top corner of the patch dashboard in Flash mode, you will notice a dropdown by default set to value Oracle Solaris on SPARC , just click on the arrow and you will get linux, windows 32, AIX and so on.
If you do not find in the list ,let me know what OS you are searching.
Best Regards
EvtLogLvl

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Any idea on the above issue?
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Siebel 7.0 to 8.1 Is a Two Step Upgrade

Hi All,
I wanted to bring this to everyone’s attention since it caught me by surprise. There is no direct upgrade path from 7.0 to 8.1. 7.5 is the last version that offers a direct upgrade path to 8.1
This is not nearly as bad as it sounds. When done correctly the extra upgrade will only add one week to your development upgrade process. We have done many two step upgrades including 6.x to 7.8/8.0 upgrades as well as SEA to SIA upgrades and once you realize how to properly perform these upgrades the second step is not significant to the project’s duration.
Actually dropping support for 7.0 is really just getting back to business as usual for Oracle. Normally when a new version of Siebel comes out support for the oldest direct upgrade version is dropped. This was the case for 7.7 being the latest version that supports a direct upgrade from 6.x.
Support for 7.0 upgrades was maintained for 7.8 and 8.0. We all just got used to 7.0 being supported but now that direct upgrade path is gone.
Please contact me if you have any questions about how to minimize your two step upgrade project duration. There are certain details you should know about before attempting such an upgrade if you have never performed one before.
HTH,
R
Robert Ponder
Lead Architect and Director
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cell: 770.490.2767
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Installed post install CPU files
You are installing OHS_8.1.7.0 component for ORACLE_HOME D:\ORACLE\ORA81
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SSO_3.0.9.8.5 is not installed in this Oracle Home
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@D:\ora8174\5236412\catcpu.sql and got a "ORA-20000: server version does not match script".
I can guess this is link to the previous "DB_8.1.7.4 is not installed in this Oracle Home" but why DB_8.1.7.4 could'nt be installed ?
Best Regards,
Guillaume.

Why you want to be on 11g and not 10g on your Siebel upgrade large database

Hi All,
Just realized the issue of adding new non nullable columns that normally is a huge issue on Siebel upgrades should go away with 11g since the way this is handled is totally changed. Other than tables like s_audit_item which has a CLOB column should allow these columns to be added very fast.
This is good reason to go with 11g instead of 10g if you are upgrading Siebel.
When you add a column, the initial value of each row for the new column is null. If
you specify the DEFAULT clause for a NOT NULL column, then the default value is
stored as metadata but the column itself is not populated with data. However,
subsequent queries that specify the new column are rewritten so that the default value
is returned in the result set.
This optimized behavior differs from earlier releases, when as part of the ALTER
TABLE operation Oracle Database updated each row in the newly created column with
the default value, and then fired any AFTER UPDATE triggers defined on the table.
However, the optimized behavior is subject to the following restrictions:
■ The table cannot have any LOB columns. It cannot be index-organized, temporary,
or part of a cluster. It also cannot be a queue table, an object table, or the container
table of a materialized view.
■ The column being added cannot be encrypted
Robert Ponder
Lead Architect and Director
Ponder Pro Serve
cell: 770.490.2767
fax: 770.412.8259
email: [email protected]
web: www.ponderproserve.com

Ok well you need to get your facts straight. You say the reason to upgrade to OS 4 but half of these have to do with the new iPhone 4 and not the OS. Two totally different issues

Siebel Upgrade and Performance Tuning On Oracle 11g Training At Oracle Open

Hi All,
If you are interested in attending a Siebel Upgrade and Performance Tuning for Oracle 11g please let me know. We are planning to offer this course during the same week as OOW in San Francisco. For anyone who can’t attend in person we are planning to offer a net meeting with a dial in.
This education is offered to actual Siebel customers.
R
Robert Ponder
Lead Architect and Director
Ponder Pro Serve
cell: 770.490.2767
fax: 770.412.8259
email: [email protected]
web: www.ponderproserve.com

Hi All,
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This education is offered to actual Siebel customers.
R
Robert Ponder
Lead Architect and Director
Ponder Pro Serve
cell: 770.490.2767
fax: 770.412.8259
email: [email protected]
web: www.ponderproserve.com

Upgrade path to Siebel 8.1.1.5

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Thank you

Wilson,
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Creating siebel image file for Siebel Patch 7.8.2.16 to upgrade from Siebel 7.8.2.14

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Hello Jolly,
Thanks for using Oracle communities.
You need to download installables for 7.8.2.16 SIA. Follow below instructions to download:
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I hope it helps.
Best Regards,
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Best Regards

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Correct, at each step you use as input for the test/ production upgrade process the custrep.dat and schema.ddl taken from the development upgrade of that step.
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Hi,
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Platform info:
Siebel Gateway, Siebel Server, Database Server: AIX 6.1 64 bit OS
Database: IBM DB2 V9.7
When running the Upgrade Database (upgrep + upgphys) wizard, the process fails to execute with errors.
Below is the error details:
1.Run the upgrade wizard:
Command: srvrupgwiz /m master_upgrep_prod_782.ucf
[IBM][CLI Driver][DB2/AIX64] SQL0444N Routine "SIEBTRUN" (specific name "SQL120127012149901") is implemented with code in library or path ".../sqllib/function/siebproc", function "siebtrun" which cannot be accessed. Reason code: "4". SQLSTATE=42724
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[IBM][CLI Driver][DB2/AIX64] SQL0444N Routine "SIEBTRUN" (specific name "SQL120127012149901") is implemented with code in library or path ".../sqllib/function/siebproc", function "siebtrun" which cannot be accessed. Reason code: "4". SQLSTATE=42724
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[IBM][CLI Driver][DB2/AIX64] SQL0444N Routine "SIEBTRUN" (specific name "SQL120127012149901") is implemented with code in library or path ".../sqllib/function/siebproc", function "siebtrun" which cannot be accessed. Reason code: "4". SQLSTATE=42724
We have raised an SR with Oracle Support and have done the changes suggested and verified the process as per the Bookshelf Installation Guide.
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Upgrading from Siebel Analytics 7.8.5 to OBIEE 10.1.3.x

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your help is highly appreciable.
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