Sigma DP2 - no dng color profiles available, only embedded

Converting X3F raw files from the Sigma DP2 a color profile created with the X-Rite Colorchecker Passport doesn't show up in the panel Camera Calibration. Instead custom profiles created for Canon cr2 raw files from a Canon 5D are showing up when working with Canon raw files.
Is this a bug of Lightroom?

Wow, I'm so glad Eric Chan is in this problem... unfortunately it's not the only one :
There is the fact that processing is locked to black and white when the white balance was set to black and white in Sigma Photo Pro (even if the color data is still there).
I know SPP writes in the files, it's bad, but Nikon's Capture NX does it and it doesn't change the way NEFs are treated in lightroom (or at least not to such extent).
Better default profiles for the sigma cameras would be a major plus too.
Take a look here for more (WB problem and bad default profiles) : http://forums.adobe.com/thread/629739?tstart=0

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Hello Andrew,
I do have a Nikon D 800 and a Fuji X-E1. I haven's noticed a problem with the Fuji so far. I think I will recalibrate my monitor tomorrow and see if the problem still exists.
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http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles

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i think it´s messy and it´s also not very save to have the profiles only as separate files, in case you lose the profiles.
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that´s what i want... but i have to export all files again as DNG files.
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i hope my english is good enough so you understand what my problem is.
can anyone share a light on this?
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possible.... but imho that can lead (at least in my case ) to problems.
in the case when you forget to update the DNG manually and delete the profiles (because you think they are already embeded via STRG+S).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0qUb4J5A4
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Do About Plug-ins / Camera Raw and see what precise version you have, and verify which camera model you have.

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On the mac you could have sips do this (it may depend on the file type). You would loose the files creator if Photoshop was its last editor though.

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Edit in italics

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Hi, Tom.
The real issue here is getting accurate color. You can't get accurate color by setting your monitor profile to sRGB. sRGB is a virtual color space that doesn't describe the exact color gamut of any physical device. But, in order to display sRGB or any color space accurately, you need to get a characterization of your monitor.
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I have a Nikon D750 and currently consider using DNG as archive format for my RAW files.
But the converted DNG files are shown with a wrong color profile when opened via Apple's own camera raw framework...
It works in Adobe software - such as Lightroom - but any software using the OS X internal camera raw framework seems to use the wrong color profile when opening the DNG. Note that the original D750 NEF files are opened and rendered correctly.
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A few simple tests on your end may help you better understand:
1. Capture the same image (same camera settings in RAW and JPEG)
2. Open these images in Canon DPP - they will be a close match, this is because Canon DPP and the Canon camera itself use similar RAW processing algorithms
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Dan,
It should work, it does for me.
Are the cameras supported by LR? You say there is a separate profile for each and I guess you mean these are existing in LR. If I am correct then it should work and I am out of ideas.
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This question could really be on some other forums ...
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