Similar to Pixel Motion ?

Hello,
I really like the Frame Blending/ Pixel Motion effect, unfortunately this can only be achieve if the initial comp/layer is a video, or image sequence.
I have a series of still images on separate layers in various Comps, these are nested within my Final Comp (still retaining their transparency).. Is there a way i can achieve a similar effect to apply on my final animated Comp layer? Either through an AE work around or a Plugin?
I've tried the Force Motion FX but its too subtle to be noticed.
Thanks for any ideas.
Jeff

Thanks, Adolfo
Yeah, I discovered that setting the Speed to 50, then pre comp this into another with a time stretch of 200% came very close. However, I’m also trying to utilize Time Remap for lip sync, I’m concerned that enabling Time warp will create strange timing behaviors.
I’ll try messing with the "Posterize Time" settings, as per your suggestion, and see what happens.
Thanks again
Jeff

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> Is it possible to have a layer effected by another layers' pixel motion?
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But your description doesn't do me any good. A "change in a pixel" must be defined precisely. I'm not sure vectors of movement are required. One only needs to look at the previous frame. If a pixel has moved, how would you know? If the pixels are binary, black or white, that's easy. If they're full-rez 4:4:4 chroma sampling, that's a bit more difficult.
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I created this graphic in illustrator, made up of a pattern of wavy lines. Looks clean and normal in Illustrator, zoomed in at 400%:
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Made sure that the "document raster effects setting" in illustrator is turned way up (currently at 800 ppi)
Turned on anti-alias under "document raster effects setting" in illustrator (makes no difference whether this is on or off)
Made sure that pixel aspect correction isn't enabled in AE
Played with "interpret footage" settings in AE
Tried changing save options in illustrator -- create PDF compatible file/Use compression... neither make a difference
I'm all out of ideas. Is it possible that the illustrator file is TOO COMPLEX for AE to handle correctly? "
Let's start with point 1... Document Raster settings in Illustrator set to 800PPI...
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12 Ozone 0x010815e1 OZGroup::draw(OZRenderParams&) + 417
13 Ozone 0x01058dc4 OZElement::renderElement(OZRenderParams&) + 5836
14 Ozone 0x01056362 OZElement::render(OZRenderParams&) + 178
15 Ozone 0x010551c2 OZElement::composite(OZRenderParams&) + 310
16 Ozone 0x01035024 OZScene::render(OZRenderParams&) + 390
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19 Ozone 0x0128b4ed GLRenderer::render(OZScene*, OZRenderParams&) + 889
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edi: 0x2b2e9a08 esi: 0x00000004 ebp: 0xb0d15fb8 esp: 0xb0d15fa0
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Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 667 MHz
Network Service: Built-in Ethernet 2, Ethernet, en1
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Serial ATA Device: ST3320620AS, 298.09 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST3320620AS, 298.09 GB
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Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D
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USB Device: Apple Pro Keyboard, Mitsumi Electric, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 250 mA
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