Simple Finder bugs

Has anyone else experienced problems with using Simple Finder under 10.6?
Since I administrate a number of Macs for public access within our library, I've been using Simple Finder for several years to make my life easier. Starting with a 10.5.x update, the ability to "Run Full Finder" under Simple Finder broke. (One can enter an administrative username/password, but they are not given the full Finder. In fact, nothing seems to happen at all.) Running 10.6 on a brand new iMac confirms that this problem still exists with the new version of the operating system. I'd like to see Apple address this problem at some point. Right now, if I need to make a minor tweak, I need to login to the administrative account, disable Simple Finder for the account needing tweaking, log back into that account and make the tweak, and then log back into the administrative account to turn Simple Finder back on. It would be so much easier if "Run Full Finder" worked again as it did under 10.4.
A new problem I've encountered under 10.6 involves adding non-Apple applications to the Simple Finder's "My Applications" menu. I installed the latest version of Firefox and verified both it and Safari were selected within "Internet" under Parental Controls / Applications for the managed account. However, when I log into the managed account, only Safari appears within the menu. Very strange... I had no problems adding Firefox under 10.5.
I'd be interested in hearing reports of others experiences.
--Curtis

Hey CentralMiddleSchool,
According to the following document, if you’re an administrator for the user’s computer, you can make changes. So, as long as your students don't have the Administrator password, you should be ok:
OS X Mountain Lion: Change preferences for a user’s simple Finder
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10747
There's more information about it here:
OS X Mountain Lion: Set up a simple desktop and Finder
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH10760
Welcome to Apple Support Communities!
All the best,
Delgadoh

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I have a three year old who likes watching BBC iPlayer. I have created a managed account and invoked Simple Finder to limit the potential damage he could cause to the computer from random mouse clicks etc.
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Christian
Welcome to Apple Discussions!!
This bug is well known, and a nuisance!
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Oh, I see Malcolm beat me to it!
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<Question Closed>

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