Simple Incremental backups

I'd like some advise on doing simple incremental backups to DVD. I do not have, nor want to pay for, .Mac.
My current routine is to copy (create aliases) of the whole of my Home dirctory to a burn folder every month & then burn to DVD using the internal SuperDrive. Very easy. This whole backup set is only 1.8gb and is not growing very fast as I do not have a great deal of photos and do not use iTunes at all.
As I cannot append backup sets to DVD I am obviously wasting a lot of capacity on each DVD which then have to be erased before reuse - I am using Verbatim -RW.
Is there a simple & easy (I am far from technically proficient) backup program that will let be burn a full backup to dvd then schedule incremental backups to a CD (appending each time).
I have looked at a number of programs that seem built for external backup drives rather than DVD burning. I am not necessarily looking for a free program and am quite happy to pay for something that is both reliable and easy (very) to use.
TIA
Andy
ps why is Apple's Backup only available with .Mac?

"ps why is Apple's Backup only available with .Mac?"
Because that is part of what you are paying for!
There are many software choices for backup. Most of the lower cost or free ones generally are used with external drives as they are able to "clone" the OS and everything else to an external drive without the space limitations of a DVD.
Some software will allow incremental backups to be automated but I am not aware if any of them will do it to a DVD or CD. Retrospect is one of the most full featured, and more expensive backup solutions. If anyone could do it they would.
You can look at Retrospect here:
http://www.emcinsignia.com/
Really, these days it is cheaper in the long run to purchase an external drive than to buy DVD's or CD's. Drives are not expensive. Try looking at some of the ones available at OWC. Many of them include home versions of backup software like Silverkeeper, or even Retrospect. When you consider the cost of backup software and the media you are using it would be quite easy to recover the costs of a hard drive, especially with included backup software quite quickly.
Here is alinnk to OWC, one of many places to look:
http://www.macsales.com/
Good Luck.

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Time machine taking hours to do simple incremental backup of a few GB

My back up drie is fairly full and files are being deleted to make space. It still takes 4 hours to back up less than 3 GB. I feel that is too long? Any suggestions?
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Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
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View ▹ Show Log List
from the menu bar.
Enter the word "Starting" (without the quotes) in the String Matching text field. You should now see log messages with the words "Starting * backup," where * represents any of the words "automatic," "manual," or "standard." Note the timestamp of the last such message that corresponds to an abnormal backup. Now
CLEAR THE WORD "Starting" FROM THE TEXT FIELD
so that all messages are showning, and scroll back in the log to the time you noted. Select the messages timestamped from then until the end of the backup, or the end of the log if that's not clear. Copy them to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Paste (command-V) into a reply to this message.
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Incremental Backups Interface Problem???

Maybe it's just me, but doing a simple task like backing up (full / incremental) should be very simple, and I'm having a problem. I should be able to select a backup location (a preference), do a Full backup, then do an Incremental...as many as I want...and at some time I may want to do a Full backup again. But it seems it's much more complex than that...
Here's what I'm doing (obviously wrong):
I've done a Full backup on Drive D in some directory, say 'My Backup'. Fine, I think I have a Full backup.
Now later, I want to do an incremental, and I'm prompted to select a destination Drive (it's D), and then "chose browse to load your previous backup file."
OK, I browse to my D | My Backup directory (that's the previous and ONLY backup location), but I'm warned that a backup file already exists, and do I want to overwrite it. Huh???
An Incremental doesn't overwrite a Full Backup. What am I supposed to Browse to?
And what does "Load previous backup file to determine size" have anything to do with a simple need to create an incremental backup file?
Help hasn't helped. I'm missing something.
I'd really appreciate if anyone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I obviously don't want to overwrite a Full backup with an Incremental.

See excellent answer in Technical side of the forum
Michael Sobieski, "Problem with Full - Incremental Backup in 5.0" #1, 19 Oct 2006 8:21 am

Incremental Backup TAG missing?

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channel ORA_DISK_2: starting datafile copy
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channel ORA_DISK_1: datafile copy complete, elapsed time: 00:00:35
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Hi,
Can we use the compress option with image copy at the beginning( first time incremental run)?
Currentlly i am using the same scripts ( the first time is running is on sun and then every day).==> not sure that i am use the right strategy.
aslo i am confused the previous scripts with the following scripts:
on other database i have, i used the following scripts:
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release channel c1;
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my biggest confuse between 2 strategy:
the "Recover copy of Database" is usefull for recovery purpore so i dont have to apply more than 1 worth day of archives in case i want to restore.
but the others strategy that i provided above, i dot know how i am suppose to use when i need to resore my database lets say in wed i get crash,
so if i lunched restore database, it will use the backup Level 0 From sun, but not the incremental backup or this is what i am thinking(maybe wrong).
the reason i am saying that is because when i lunched list backup, the only backup i have is from Sun and i dont have any backup from incremental.
i preferd to use the scripts above for simple reason is the compress options i have.
Finally My DB is 10.1.0.4 on Linux with 8 CPU
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Question about using an incremental backup to update a standby

We have a 2TB Oracle 10g database with a standby and the application that uses it is about to be updated. We're using cumulative incremental backups with block change tracking to back it up with weekly level 0 backups. The application upgrade will be making a lot of changes (several hundred GB) and we have stop the standby during the upgrade process as a quick way to get back (we don't have the space for a flashback recovery) in the event that there are issues with the upgrade. We can just let the archivelogs back up and get them over to the standby and applied once they decide they like the upgrade but, it looks like it would be simpler and perhaps quicker to use an incremental backup to update the standby. I probably won't but, If we do that, it looks like we can turn off archivelogs in the primary and not deal with them at all. I've never tried this but, I do have some questions.
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If we were to turn off archivelogs in the primary, would that have any effect on block change tracking? I don't see why it would but, had to ask. Of course, we would turn archivelogs back on and take a level 1 backup after the upgrade.
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Funny you should mention that rolling upgrade, I'm actually planning to do that in another environment. My testing says it works pretty well and I'll be able to move a 400GB database to new hardware and upgrade it to 11g with very little downtime. However, in this case, the database is not being upgraded. The application is. It's just that, as part of that upgrade, there are a lot of updates and I'd just as soon not deal with the archivelogs for that. Here's what I was thinking about:
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Start log log apply in the standby.
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http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14191/rcmdupdb.htm#BGBCEBJG
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Martin_Had a écrit:
Thank you Andaleeb. I appear to have an old backup of a year ago, and a more recent full back up plus an incremental backup.
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ms364 wrote:
I am using a macbook (2010 version) and operating Lion. I had a problem with my Macbook where it wouldn't log on, even in safe mode, so I restored it using Timemachine.
When you erased the disk, it got a new UUID (Universally Unique IDentifier), which is treated like a different drive, and Time Machine will back it up in it's entirety.
Did you do a full system restore, starting from the Recovery HD? If so, that should have left a "trail" so Time Machine should have automatically "associated" the restored disk with the existing backups.
If you did it "piecemeal," though, via the "Star Wars" display, it won't (that doesn't leave the trail for TM to figure out what happened).
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felciano wrote:
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That's quite unusual. Normally it does a full backup immediately: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1338
See #C4 in [Time Machine - Troubleshooting|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/Troubleshooting.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).

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