Simple Question - Data Transfer Object

Hey gurus,
I like the option in JBuilder to automatically create Data Transfer Objects and an Assembler for it. But what? I used to make the assembler a Session Bean, and JBuilder makes it a normal Java class with static methods. I know JBuilder always ships with the best solutions, but...
what is the advantage of the static class here? And in my case, i have the session beans and the entity beans deployed on a different server, would that make a difference for the advantage?
greets,
Nick.

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Business Objects(BOs) & Data Transfer Objects(DTOs)-both needed ?

In a J2EE system...
I know that "Business Objects" (BOs) are basically value objects (VOs) ...lots of getters and setters and some business logic. These are basically to model nouns in the system. Eg Student BO.
I know that "Data Transfer Objects" (DTOs) are value objects (VOs)....with getters and setters... with the purpose of avoiding multiple method calls...to avoid overhead...which effects performance. eg it's better to pass a Student DTO then say...pass the student ID and student name and student age etc etc.
Main question : Should a system have both ? If yes, why do I need a StudentBO.java and then another StudentDTO.java....when they are so similar ?...when both are basically VOs ? Can't I just use BOs to serve as DTOs ?
Thanks.

Hi,
I've started using BO's and DTO's since 3 months .With my experiece i understand we nned both of them.
The BusinessObject represents the data client. It is the object that requires access to the data source to obtain and store data.
DTO
This represents a Transfer Object used as a data carrier. The DataAccessObject may use a Transfer Object to return data to the client. The DataAccessObject may also receive the data from the client in a Transfer Object to update the data in the data source.
From this i want to tell you that We are not gonna do any operation on BO's but we do operations on DTO
Ashwin

Data Transfer Objects

Is it safe to assume that Data Transfer Objects should be populated by Business Objects that are local to entity beans or whatever is being used to populate them?

jschell wrote:
ttb999 wrote:
jschell wrote:
So if the point of DTOs is to reduce network traffic, why would you initially populate them using a remote object? That doesn't have anything to do with what I said.Well that was the jist of my question.Your statement has a historical perspective which probably doesn't mean much in current DTO usage.
Originally RMI was promoted as a a 'method' interface. As such you would have had the equivalent of a DTO with setter/getter for each attribute. Each setter/getter would invoke a remote procedure call to the server.
Thus a data object with 5 attributes would cause 5 network calls to 'populate' the attributes.
That was vastly inefficient.
Consequently the first DTO type (which was not called a DTO) was promoted as a way to avoid that.
If you want you can look up "Remote Procedure Call" (RPC) which would have been the origin of where the 'method' idiom originated.And quite apart from performance, populating a local object from the remote prevents disruption of the local data in case the network connection is (temporarilly) lost.

Data Transfer Object Class

HI, i'm new with the web dynpro, so i been told to use java web dynpro using the Data Transfer Object, with a conection to Oracle.
anybody has information about the web dynpro using Data Transfer Object.
thanks in advance!!

Hi,
Their are lot of articles on the same here, please search for java bean models. Will give some hints
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> Webdynpro
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Hierarchical data transfer objects confusing Flex compiler...

I just posted this same query on FlexCoders... but then I
thought this might be a better target group to ask, so here goes:
We are working on a set of data transfer objects where we
have matching server-side java classes and client-side AS classes.
Some of these DTO contain lists of other DTOs. As an example:
A.java:
public class A {
List blist
In A.as we have...
class A {
public var blist : ArrayCollection;
And we have B.java and B.as
Then we have a RemoteObject call to pull down a bunch of A
objects....
Here's the problem, Flex does not compile B.as at build-time.
So if B.as has a compiler problem, you never know about it,
except that the 'blist' in A never gets populated. If you break
down the data transfer and debug it. You find that during
RemoteObject call, the blist data comes "down the wire", but as an
ArrayCollection generic Objects, they never get turned into
instances of Bs...
I am guessing that this is happening because at compile time,
there is not direct reference to B in the clientside project. Our
covering .mxml wants one or more A objects, and inside A the blist
is an ArrayCollection. So the compiler doesn't see a reference to
B..
So anyone know how we can fairly seamlessly make sure B.as
gets compiled at build time so we'd know of compiler issues with it
rather than spending lots of time debugging mysterious null values?
(This appears to happen whether the project is set to compile
on the client-side or the server-side. We are using Flex and FDS
2.0.1 and Java 1.5)

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Simple Question - Data Import

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i have a simple question. Is it wise to change our actual import scenarios for input data from systems out of sap to XI?
Today we have the scenario that data from outer systems will send per ftp to a special directory. After that a report will transform the data into a batchinput. The btci will send per rfbibl into the system. Now we have a huge number of such reports. Will it now be better to change to XI, which we use perhaps for MDM?
Xi could take the file from ftp-srever maps the fields an will send per bapi to sap.
Is it a quite simple scenario or is batchinput still the better way.

Hi,
If you have a scenario where you have different file formats , which needs to be converted and then send to different systems based on some conditions , then suggested is XI usage.
However, also if you already have XI installed and running for the MDM system , then you can think of routing all messages through XI. It may make sense to use one system for all routing and data conversion puposes.
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Can I declare arraylists in data transfer object

Can I use arraylists in data transfer objects

Yes, and don't double post:
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=540027&forum=425&message=2616354
Answers don't always come in three minutes. Be patient.

User-Defined Data Type (Data Transfer Objects) is null

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i try to access a nested complex datatype over blazeds. i always see that the second level of the complex datatye is NULL but the other data's like String are ok.
here an example:
as you can see TT1 has a member TT2, and a String
TT2 has a member TT3 and a string
and TT3 has just a string.
in the ActionScript the TT2 referenz in TT1 is always NULL.
Java Code
Java code:
package clientreportingserver;
public class TT1 {
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    public void setTt2(TT2 tt2) {
         this.tt2 = tt2;
    TT2 tt2;
=================================================
package clientreportingserver;
public class TT2 {
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        return t2s;
    public void setT2s(String t2s) {
        this.t2s = t2s;
    String t2s;
    public TT3 getTt3() {
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=================================================
package clientreportingserver;
public class TT3 {
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package clientreporting.model
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[RemoteClass(alias="clientreportingserver.TT1")]
[Bindable]
public class TT1
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package clientreporting.model
import mx.collections.ArrayCollection;
[RemoteClass(alias="clientreportingserver.TT2")]
[Bindable]
public class TT2
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    public var t2:TT3
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package clientreporting.model
import mx.collections.ArrayCollection;
[RemoteClass(alias="clientreportingapi.TT3")]
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[BlazeDS]Deserializing AMF/HTTP request
Version: 3
(Message #0 targetURI=null, responseURI=/5)
    (Array #0)
      [0] = (Typed Object #0 'flex.messaging.messages.RemotingMessage')
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        destination = "exposedServiceWrapper"
        clientId = "E57066B1-170E-503A-D4EC-004166E95FC3"
        body = (Array #1)
        timeToLive = 0
        headers = (Object #2)
          DSEndpoint = "channel-amf"
          DSId = "E570490A-C218-4A29-4229-8CD6F29222FC"
        timestamp = 0
        messageId = "5FDB47AD-9066-DD95-4CD4-0CE0D3F6C337"
[BlazeDS]Adapter 'java-object' called 'null.getTT(java.util.Arrays$ArrayList (Collection size:0)
[BlazeDS]Result: 'clientreportingserver.TT1
t1s = TT 1 String
tt2 = clientreportingserver.TT2
    t2s = TT 2 String
    tt3 = clientreportingserver.TT3
      t3s = TT 3 String
[BlazeDS]Serializing AMF/HTTP response
Version: 3
(Message #0 targetURI=/5/onResult, responseURI=)
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      (Typed Object #1 'clientreportingserver.TT1')
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        tt2 = (Typed Object #2 'clientreportingserver.TT2')
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          tt3 = (Typed Object #3 'clientreportingserver.TT3')
            t3s = "TT 3 String"
1.262936445958E12
(Byte Array #4, Length 16)
(Byte Array #5, Length 16)
(Byte Array #6, Length 16)
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Simple Question- WS & Custom object types

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I know in Web Services it is possoble to pass user defined objects, as long as they implement Serializable. But is it that simple? do you not have to define mappings and the like in the configuration files?
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I would like to explain you how I work and to know how you guys do.
All this discussion is just an example of how I work. I really want to know how other coders usually work. This way, maybe I can improve my code.
I would like to know how do you do when you want to retreive data into typed objects when these data contains reference to other typed objects.
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I want to retreive all my customers into a flex datagrid and to display all information.
Here is my Customer table structure (just an example)
id, name, refCompany, refLanguage, refCountry, refCustomerGroup
refCompany, refLanguage, refCountry, refCustomerGroup are IDs that reference to other tables.
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I make a query that looks like : Select * from Customer
My java code will looks like :
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Data Transfer Objects Design Pattern

Hi All,
Could anyone tell me more about this DTO design pattern, as such when one should prefer it.
Second is this pattern transaction safe or one would have to implement the same manually. Any updates would prove benefecial to me.

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I do not understand what you mean.
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you do not need any jndi look for DTO , instead you lookup for ejbs , datasources ,....
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Is it mandatory to use Business object for data transfer and work flow?


<pre>
In our enterprise projects we deal with some screens where we add or update some data and again
we retrieve that data and display to user in various ways like displaying on screen as
a report or viewing in excel etc.. Most of the times, though we identify the business objects
based on the nouns in requirements document, really while implementing there will not be any
business logic in the objects. Almost all the objects which we identfy as business objects
may have methods like add, delete, update and retrieve methods. Still in these cases, is it required to
have business objects or can we use transfer object to send the data for saving and retriving or any other
pattern/guideline is there for dealing such cases?
I really appreciate your comments on this topic.
Also I apologize ahead of time if my explanation is not clear to you.
</pre>


Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Rizwan.

In my opinion, DAO pattern would be suitable for you. Generally the DAO (Data Access Object) will have the CRUD (create, read, update, delete) methods to retrieve data from data-source (e.g. database). Based on the data it will create the DTOs (Data Transfer Objects) and pass them to the caller. It will also receive the DTOs from the caller and save it the data-source. Thus in your case you can
- remove the CRUD methods from the Business Objects (BO) and make them pure DTOs and use them with DAOs (If you are using JDBC codes inside your application and you don't have much of validation or processing logic in your BOs).
http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/Patterns2ndEd/DataAccessObject.htm
OR
- use BOs in combination in DAOs (if using the database connection from a pool and BOs are having complicated processing logic).
http://www.corej2eepatterns.com/Patterns2ndEd/BusinessObject.htm

Error while Transfer Object

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I have a Data-Transfer-Object which is transfered between a client and an EJB. While this transfer I get this exception:
java.rmi.MarshalException: CORBA MARSHAL 1398079699 Maybe; nested exception is:
org.omg.CORBA.MARSHAL: Unable to read value from underlying bridge : Mismatched serialization UIDs : Source (Rep. IDRMI:com.tsystems.ik.to.BANFTO:0000000000000000) = 0000000000000000 whereas Target (Rep. ID RMI:com.tsystems.ik.to.BANFTO:5F16928AAE9F82C6:70F941F18AA0F040) = 70F941F18AA0F040 vmcid: SUN minor code: 211 completed: Maybe
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private String name;
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