Simulating DNG Profile changes in PSD file

Hello everyone,
I have a RAW file and applied Adobe's default DNG Profile (via the Camera Calibration panel in Lightroom 2.6) and converted it to a PSD file so I can retouch the photo via Photoshop CS3.
After hours of retouching, I now want to apply a custom DNG Profile that I made from a Color Checker. However, I'm not able to apply the profile to "already-rendered images" (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:FAQ#WhyOnlyEmbedded)
So my question is: Is there any way to simulate the effects of a profile change via Photoshop adjustments (i.e. HUE/SAT adjustments)?
Please feel free to let me know if more clarification is needed.
Thanks,
David

I thought I'd posted a reply but I failed to make it stick, somehow. Anyway, thanks Jim for that. Makes perfect sense.
Except I've just had a further thought. Why would Adobe change a file name to distinguish between color spaces if DNGs/RAWs are color-space agnostic? Where it would make sense is with jpegs, but name-changing doesn't happen there, of course, as there's no conversion taking place.

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Hello everyone,
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After hours of retouching, I now want to apply a custom DNG Profile that I made from a Macbeth Color Checker. However, I'm not able to apply the profile to "already-rendered images" (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:FAQ#WhyOnlyEmbedded)
So my question is: Is there any way to simulate the effects of a profile change via Photoshop adjustments (i.e. HUE/SAT adjustments)?
Please feel free to let me know if more clarification is needed.
Thanks,
David

Hi Wolf,
Thanks, I really appericate your response. But I'm still not able to change the DNG Profile. Here are my steps in following your direction, please let me know where I went wrong:
1. I exported the retouched PSD file as a DNG file via Lightroom 2.6
2. I then opened the DNG file in Camera Raw via Adobe Bridge
3. At this point, I checked the "Open in Photoshop as Smart Objects" option and opened the file in Photoshop CS3
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