Single SATA Drive?

Hi,
I'm looking to get a new hard drive at present, I have 2 IDE hard disks, but one is IBM, and I think its going to die sometime soon (do NOT buy IBM hard disks - they suck - or at least the one I bought did as well as its replacement, which is dieing now!). Is it easy to just use 1 SATA hard disk? I don't want to use any raid stuff, and don't particularly want raid stuff enabled on my mobo, is this possible? And also use it as the main primary drive? Its just that I know someone that just got a new SATA for his Abit mobo, and he had all sorts of problems, and now its scared me off a bit from SATA drives. Please dispel these fears of mine
Xee

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Originally posted by Xee
I don't suppose you could tell me exactly what bios settings I could get away with - just want the bare minimum enabled. At the moment only PATA is enabled, so I guess the one next to it SATA, needs to be enabled, or would various others around the bios need to be enabled? Keeping in mine I have no intention of using RAID Is the driver you speak of for the mobo or the drive, me thinks its for the mobo right? Any pointers to which driver you mean?
Is it on a floppy disk that came with the mobo, or do i have to download it?
Is SATA1 and SATA2 reverse for everybody? Thx for the F6 tip, will hopefully remember that when I get around to a fresh format
Also any recommendations on the following drives? I have a Maxtor IDE at the moment which I'm happy with so far, not sure if I should go for Maxtor again, but in SATA format, or one of these other three?
Seagate SERIAL SATA Barracuda 7200.7 200Gb
Samsung SP1614C 160GB
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 Serial ATA 200GB 8MB Cache
jocko
Thx Xe
Just use PATA IDE enabled and SATA IDE enabled, the Via drivers, there will be no raid.
Maxtors are OK SATA drives, had no problems. At F6 load both via drivers,
jocko

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ok i tried it all again, different Windows disc, swapped DVD drives, changed SATA cable, and it still does the same thing, I boot from CD - F6 - install SATA Raid - System files load - Windows is starting(Windows wordt gestart, my OS is Dutch) - and then it just hangs for 5 minutes on that screen - error time out
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Singlemalt, I took it you were Scotch, at least by extraction. Now you comps talking Dutch. What Distillery is it from, can I have some? :hypecrite:
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http://www.m-m.me.uk/Macs/index_files/Page561.htm
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Hi Jocko
OK, I'll try explain (and remember!)
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