Site survey for 3502i access point

Hi,
I want to do initial site survey to fix the location of 3502i but there is no existing lan-set up where i can connect and do the site survey.
I do not have autonomous ap as well.
do i need to wait to get ethernet lan up and connect my ap and get registered ap with WLC and then fix the location or is there any other way to do site survey?
Please suggest me .

There is now available beta code for autonomous 1260 series APs. You could reach out to your Cisco contact and try to get that. The 1260 and 3500 series APs are identical with the exception of the spectrum capabilities in the 3500. So you can survey for a 3500 deployment with an autonomous 1260.
Regards,
Scott

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http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a008072d9a1.shtml
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Hi all. I have a trouble with AIR-CAP3502I-R-K9 AP and I want to ask help.
I tried to upgrade IOS software in ap because it was connecting and disconnecting to controller too often. I already upgraded one of two access point and it working stable at this time, but the second one not.
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compiled Fri 17-Aug-12 12:12 by mpleso
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Unknown cmd: tftp_init
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compiled Fri 17-Aug-12 12:12 by mpleso
******** AUTOMATIC DDR CALIBRATION UPGRADE LOGIC *********
=== 1. Is original FCS bootloader in BS:? If not, skip upgrade ===
    ---> original FCS bootloader not detected -- skip upgrade
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P70ca.9bd5.77c6#
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AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
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AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
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AP70ca.9bd5.77c6#
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6#
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6#
P70ca.9bd5.77c6>
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3750X-48P (e05f.b907.9a20)
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>
AP70ca.9bd5.77c6>en
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