Six core vs quad core

Is an intel six core cpu 1.5 times better than a intel quad core cpu? When I am using media encoder to produce an hour long HD mp4 file with gpu acceleration would the processing time be significantly less with the six core cpu?

Francis,
Ideally speaking you are correct, but in real life it often does not work out that way. Generally you can expect around 35-45% increase of a hexa core over a quad core, but only if the processes are nicely threaded and there are no other bottlenecks in your system. That is hardly the case and that is why in practice the gains are often smaller, due to other bottlenecks appearing (disk I/O, memory or GPU) and overhead from the OS and application.

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Dual core or Quad Core

I know elements will run on a "Dual core or Quad Core" system, but will it use the "Dual core or Quad Core" feature

Yes, the Editor will make good use of multiple processors, while the Organizer appears to make somewhat less use of multiple processors. PSE 7 has a severe bug with respect to raw files, but that's fixed in PSE 7.

Macbook pro, dual core or quad core?

Hey guys Im getting an early college present and was wondering which Macbook I should look at. This will be my one and only computer while im in college. No photo editing or anything like that, maybe some video editing but it will be almost none. Will be used to surf the web and write documents. My question is should i get the dual core or quad core processor? Will it really matter for what i want it for? One thing I absolutely hate is lag! So the faster of the two the better.

tony477g wrote:
So if I went with the quadcore because you guys say it is faster than the 2.9 ghz dualcore. Would the difference be noticable between the 2.6 ghz and the 2.3 ghz? I noticed the 2.6 has 8 gb to the 4gb and 750gb to the 500 gb.
Well, actually, only one guy said the quad core would be faster, but it is not clear why they said that. You said you were only going to use it "to surf the web and write documents." Well, guess what. You don't need a quad-core for that. You don't need a dual-core for that. I've surfed the web and written documents on my old single-core iPhone. Those tasks are just not that demanding.
So unless there are more things you want to do that you haven't mentioned, there is just about no way it's worth paying for quad-core or a 2.6GHz processor if all you are going to do is surf the web and write documents.
The quad-core is going to speed up operations that specifically benefit from parallel processing, like intensive editing of photo/audio/video, or bulk encoding of audio and video, or specific math apps, stuff like that. And most Mac users would not benefit from choosing the 2.6GHz over the 2.3GHz because the performance of so many common uses depends not only on the CPU speed, but actually on the overall balance of CPU, RAM, and disc. In other words, if you really have a legitimate application for 2.6GHz it usually means you must also install a great deal more RAM and also an SSD to avoid creating a bottleneck that holds back the CPU. But then you would have a machine that is massively overpowered and overpriced for surfing the web and writing documents.
You could surf the web and write documents quite effectively on the least expensive MacBook that Apple sells. But since you do want to keep it throughout all of college, it is a good idea to buy something higher than the bottom of the line. For a Mac for very basic uses that should last four years, I would suggest:
13-inch MacBook Air with 256GB SSD storage and 8GB RAM
13-inch MacBook Pro with 500GB HD storage and 8GB RAM
13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display with 256GB SSD storage and 8GB RAM
(You didn't mention what your budget is)
I suggested 13-inch because it's more portable than the 15-inch but more comfortable for 4 years than an 11-inch. I chose storage sizes that would be appropriate since you said you would do some video. And I chose 8GB RAM because 4GB may not be enough for 4 years, and also because insufficient RAM is often a bigger cause of lag than CPU or disk speed.
If you have a limited amount of money, from this point on you'll need to justify why you would want a bigger screen, a faster CPU, or more cores given the two tasks you said you'd be doing most of the time. Because again, if you didn't actually need a Mac, you could write documents and surf the web on an iPad with the Logitech Ultrathin Keyboard Cover and be done for $600.

How can I tell if I have an i7 dual core or quad core processor?

I just got my brand new (2011 refurbished) MacBook Pro yesterday and it is slow and choppy right out of the box. I checked the "About This Mac" screen and it says I have the "2.2 GHz Intel Core i7". It says nothing about "dual core" or "quad core". I thought I was buying a quad core, but now I'm starting to wonder exactly what I bought.
Does anyone have any insight on this?
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Matt
Chicago, IL

You have a quad core.
Number of Cores: 4
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Captfred

Should I go with a dual core or quad core MacBook?

Hi all,
I am going to be a college student this fall majoring in a science related field. My first question is what processor I should go with. I am looking at either a 13" MBP with a dual core i7 and 8 GB of RAM (750GB HD), 13" MBP w/ a dual core i5, 8GB RAM and 500GB HD, or a 15" quad core i7 with 8GB RAM and 500 GB HD. I plan on upgrading to a SSD once prices come down in a few years and would like to stick with the MBP without Retina Display so that I can upgrade RAM and HD later on.
Will I see a noticeable difference between dual core i5 and i7? From what I have seen, it has not been much of a difference. I only plan to do light Photoshop and doubt I will do any video editing or even 3D modelling for the most part. This will mainly be used for research (web), streaming, and Office. I know that the i5 is more than capable of all of that, but I am looking to make this machine last 4+ years at least. That is why I am considering jumping up to the 15" MBP just to get the quad core and ensure that I will have a longer lasting machine.
Most of the time the laptop will be travelling around, but I will also be plugging this into a Thunderbolt Display for more screen space.
Let me know what you all think! Right now, I am leaning towards the 13" MBP with dual core i7, but this is subject to change. Will it last throughout college?
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Sean

seanbrownie wrote:
Screen size set aside since I plan on using a TBD most of the time,
Then you want the more powerful graphics of the 15" with it's dedicated GPU to better/faster drive the external display as it's larger, and larger displays pumps more pixels so you also need the better cooling of the 15"
would adding more RAM solve the OS X upgrade issues over time?
Yes, but more RAM isn't a cure all, processors and graphics also has to be powerful to last longer.
RAM allows one to do more things at the same time, and gives a performance boot with programs with larger files it's working on (like large Photoshop and video files)
Plus, would upgrading the HD to SSD help in making the jump to say OS X 10.11, 10.12 down the road easier?
Not that much really, with the non-Retina 15" you can put in a 1TB SSD when the prices come down further
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008120%2060041492 0&IsNodeId=1&name=513GB%20-%201TB
It would be nice to save a little on the screen size since I won't be able to utilize the 15" to its maximum potential when I'm working at my desk.
Your on the wrong platform if your looking to save money.
If you compare specs and performance of the hardware Apple offers for sale and equivilent i5/dual cores with Intel HD graphics, you'll find for $1500 buys a Mac and for $400 buys the same in a Windows PC.
Really the best value comes with the 15" as if your in that pro market for such a machine you might as well get OS X with it as PC's cost about the same in that range.
The really best value is a Windows 7 tower, that way it's parts are all upgradable and can last a decade or more on one Widnows OS version.
Several of my friends think I'm crazy spending $10,000 on Mac's in 10 years, they are still on their XP towers and haven't paid much more than $2000 over that same time.
Of course now XP is dead and they have to upgrade to Windows 7 towers, but they really get good value out of their boxes.
Mac's are not for those tight on a budget, I don't advise. A Windows machine will do the job for most people
Perhaps a Windows 3D gaming tower and a iPad?

Dual-core or Quad-core for Premiere, After Effects, and Photoshop CS4?

We are planning to purchase around 25 computers for a computer lab for working with CS4 Production Premium at the high school level. Mainly Premiere Pro, After Effects, and Photoshop. Our budget is, unfortunately, a mere $550-$625 per machine (just the tower though, we have monitors). I've already established that a 64-bit operating system makes a significant difference in the performance, even though Photoshop is the only 64-bit application, and I'm now hung up on whether or not it's worth the cost of a quad-core processor over a dual-core.
I'm discovering the different hardware needs for each application, so I'm trying to find an economic balance that will give me the best performance per buck. It seems that Premiere benefits significantly from more cores (we're editing 1440x1080 AVCHD), and this article over at Tom's Hardware has convinced me that I don't want to compromise with a hyperthreaded dual-core for After Effects.
I'm also struggling with what part the graphics card plays in the mix. Which applications lean on the graphics card, and will it make much difference as long as I meet the requirements (OpenGL 2.0, Shader Model 3.0, Direct3D 10, and 256 Mb Ram)?
I understand I will need to settle for less-than-awesome with my budget, but I'm already making sacrifices to get the number to $625. I would like to make sure that those sacrifices will be worth it for a quad-core system.

I think I may have answered my own question by looking at these charts over at Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS4 ,1404.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Adobe-Photoshop-CS-4,1 387.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-After-Effec ts-CS5,2427.html
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I'm deciding on the spec for new Mac Pro.
The eight core is significantly more expensive than the quad core. Is the difference in performance as noticeable?
My work is mainly hi-res photoshop work - often very large files (between 2 and 5Gb files). Will an eight core make a noticeable difference on that kind of work?
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Heck, even the 2008 Mac Pro (check Specials) is fine and what you need is RAM and other things and SAVE yourself the $1400+, way too over-priced for an 8-core.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_pro
Check Barefeats "Pro Apps" article.

Happy with 27" core i5 quad core

Just wanted to post that I'm very happy with my new 27" i5 quad core.
I'd ordered a core i7 27" on Jan 5th but, like many others, got 2 delay notifications. I cancelled that order and on a whim went to the local Apple store. I didn't know that they actually carried the core i5's at the store. I thought they only had the core 2 duos.
Anyways, got the machine home last night and everything is perfect. No dead pixels, cracks, or obvious yellowing. It's beautiful!
I tossed another 4GB of ram to get up to 8GB and am loving it!
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PE10 & Duo Core vs Quad Core

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Your system was configured with PSU for a given load. Apple uses a different configuration for 3GHz 8-core w/ X1900. There are suppose to be at least 3 different system designs.
And there are some excellent chips on the horizon with 45nm Xeon quads due in '08 (except for a 135W 3GHz slated for November and $999 OEM price apiece). Making the "upgrade vs new" Anandtech
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Dual core vs Quad Core for mild video and photo editing

I've owned PC's since ever and I'm now contemplating on coming over to the Mac world, my question is would a fully upgraded 13" MBPr Suffice for mild photo and video editing or should I try to shell out the extra cash for a lower end 15" with Quad-Core?
13" specs
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16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
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15" specs
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512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
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Sorry, yes it will suffice? if so how many years would I expect this computer to last me? (Sorry I'm really new to apple)

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"Hyperthreading" is the key. Hyper-threading enables each execution unit (or core, if you will) to process two threads (tasks) simultaneously. It can do this because not every instruction takes only a single instruction cycle. Sometimes instructions have to wait for a read from memory, which can take many clock cycles. Sometimes multiple instructions can be performed at once -- for example, a floating point addition and an integer multiplication, as long as both instructions already have their operands in registers and store the results in different registers. Hyper-threading enables each processor to handle multiple tasks by allowing one task to work while the other is waiting for a result, or allowing both instructions to be completed at the same time because they use non-conflicting resources.
So, two "hyperthreaded" cores work as fast as four without hyperthreading, or the difference in speed is so negligible, you wouldn't notice it. Since the Mac Mini Core i7 is also hyperthreaded, it works as well as dual quad cores, so if you need inudstry standard speed, then the Core i7 would be your best choice.
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