Size of aperture 3 library is way to large

I am using aperture 3 fully updated.... i have multiple separate libraries... I noticed that in a new library I created I imported 5 gb of photos (no editing yet) and ended up with a 48g aperture file .... i am using managed and imported via a card .... but this is crazy
all my libraries are very large for some reason ... please help

AVPatel wrote:
also when i drilled down into the aperture file i noticed
/Aperture.aplib/
/Attachments/
/Database/
/iLifeShared/
/India%20trip/ was 12g
/India%20trip%20-%202/ was 25g
/Info.plist
/Masks/
/Masters/ was 5.5g
f/Previews/
/Thumbnails/
why are there two India trip folders and why are they so big ???
Those two India folders are at the top level of the Aperture library? Thats not right. Does the name India trip ring a bell? Have you used that name in any way on your system?
I would run library first aid procedures repair permissions and repair library just to see what Aperture reports if anything. Hold the option and command keys down while starting Aperture to access the first aid window.
BTW this is what the top level of an Aperure library should contain:
Message was edited by: Frank Caggiano - added image

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I just completed upgrading my old Aperture 2 library to 3. In Ap2, the library was I believe around 2GB, maybe as big as 4GB. Now, in Ap3, it is 11GB. Absolutely nothing changed other than the upgrade.
To give a better example, I also finished importing all of my old photos (from 1999 - 2006) into Ap3... I'd say roughly 75% of the photos are from an old Nikon Coolpix 950 - not exactly the world's highest megapixel camera (1600 x 1200 pics). After importing those photos, I now have a grand total of 27,900 photos in my Aperture 3 library - all referenced masters. Now the library is nearly 25GB in size.
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No, from folders in Finder. I always have my photos in Finder too on an EHD, even after I import them to iPhoto or Aperture.

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In Aperture 3 and using File>Get Info, I'm told that many photos, which are 7+ Mb's are only One Mb or less. Are the full-sized masters held elsewhere, and if so how can I get to them. You've guessed I'm a newbie - just 2 months with Apple and I'm very confused - any advice would be gratefully received.

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I am wondering how you are importing the pictures from your camera? When you import from your camera, the right side of your display window will have a lot of options that you can select to grab your images from the camera.
Does your camera shoot RAW+JPEG? If so, you may not be importing them correctly and only picking up the JPEGS. You can import them so they stay together or separate them. The master images are all at the Project Level whereas the views you see in Albums for example are aliases that point back to your Project.
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Managed or Referenced Library? Managed -
Make sure the drive is formatted Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
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FIle -> Import -> iPhoto Library? Have you done this already? If so are you trying to move the Masters to Aperture from an iPhoto Library? Or Consolidate them?
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You might want to spend a little time with the manual or the video tutorials. I'm not sure you've grasped the app you've purchased.
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