Sizing of catalog using an external 7 terabyte RAID
I have just purchased LR in order to see if it can efficentaly catalog my 100k of raw photographs (19 meg each).These reside on a 7tb network drive. Since LR does not allow me to place the catalog on a large external network drive. I want to know how large it will get.
I would also like to hear from anyone who has done something similar and their best practices before I commit the time and effort to process 100k+ of photos....I want to know if this is a good digital photo asset management system for collections of this size...or not.
Thanks to all
Bob
Rick,
Thanks for your help. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction on another issue.
I selected all the directorys to import in a massive selection and let LR run overnight. It got most of them except five (each one has 4k photos) LR shows them as 0 files. So I tried importing them indivdually. A long process ensued but at the end LR said no files imported.
So I tried syncing them (remember I'm new to LR) it was a two step process that first counted up the files(so I know LR sees them) then asked me to press sync. Another long process but no luck same result. I am at a loss. Did I miss something? Thanks again.
Bob
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I have a new Mac Pro computer and have migrated my files from my older computer to the new computer. In trying to open a Lightroom catalog on an external hard drive I keep on getting the message "lightroom cannot use the catalog named " " because it is not writable and cannot be opened. I have fixed all the "permissions" and yet it will still not open. How do I fix this?
Hello Forum Members,
I figured it out. You have to select the actual logo of the Lightroom catalog and then click on "get info" and allow what ever your new user name to "read and write". That worked!
Henri Silberman -
I am out of space on my desktop. I want to export my catalog to an external drive and then work off that external drive which has more storage. I have about 38000 pix, which have keywords etc that I want to be part of this export so I can work on groups of pictures, when necessary.
When I go to files, export catalog I get a message that about 1000 pics will be in the catalog to be exported. How might I get all the pics with keywords metadata and other vital info exported?With due respect, you appear to have a fundamental lack of knowledge on how LR works. The "pic" files are not in the catalogs. They are separate.
The catalog has NOTHING in it but the adjustments you've made. There are no "pics" in it at all. The 38,000 photos exist separately. So Exporting your catalog to another drive will do nothing to fix the crowded "desktop". It only would move the list of adjustment to another location.
The reason that it Exports a catalog with only 1000 "pics" is because that is what you have somehow selected. If you want to export a catalog for all the "pics", select all of them. But, that won't make room on your "desktop". You need to move the "pics".
To make room on your "desktop", you need to move the "pic" files themselves, not the catalog. To do that may require an understanding of computer file structure. In terms of how Lightroom ties your adjustments (recorded in the catalogs) you will have to use Lightroom itself to move the files. You do that within the Library module and, to do it right, will require an understanding of operating system standard file structures.
To keep the adjustments (recorded in the catalogs) connected with the "pics" you need to plug in the external HDD, and WITHIN LIGHTROOM, create a files structure on the external HDD you are happy with. Then, you can copy, cut and past or drag and drop from you "desktop" to the new file structure. If you do it within LR, your adjustments will remain intact.
It may be tempting to use your operating system programs, like Windows Explorer or the Mac equivalent to move the files, but that will fix the "desktop" space problem but you will loose all of you keywords, adjustments or whatever.
It is probably rude and impolite, but it amazes me that people trust their cherished photography to a program such as Lightroom without ever doing the homework to understand the underlying principles of operation.
Good luck! This can be terribly confusing. -
How can I move a folder to another catalog using LR 3
I have imported a large amount of folder into cat#1, but now i have decided to create cat#2. I have tried to move the "folders" and not "catalog" using the following workflow:
1- Opening cat #1, make selection of folder to be moved
2- Go to file and select "Export as a cat".
3- Opened cat #2, go to File and select "Import catalog"
4- Importing window shows the entire list of folders I had imported previously (lots of them). They all are checked. I can see the path, but only see the location of the folders, but I can't read the name of the files. I am able to see the total number on each folder
5- I have not even considering "synchronizing" the folder
Oh another thing, when I go to cat#1 and locate the folder I "exported as a catalog". The folder still shows on cat#1, but I don't see it on cat#2. I guess because I didn't complete the task.
I find it very tedious process trying to locate the file. And this is where I'm stuck
I have searched so many ways to find a workflow that would make sense, but I tend to get nothing but responses about how to move a "catalog". I have been thinking doing the following:
1- Remove the folder from cat#1
2- Open cat#2 and import the same folder, but this again seems to redundant, boring and a lot of clicking. Any suggestions.Hm... Well, for everyone else the reply link is still on the website, and works fine soo....
Tell me about it. I went to catalog #2 and I didn't see the exported
catalog. Then I went back to catalog #1 and I still can see the entire
folder that I had selected to Export. I double checked it the process and it
seemed ok, but apparently there's something missing to complete the export
You seem under the impression that exporting as a catalog removes the images from the first catalog. This is not true. As I said earlier, it makes a copy for you. So of course, when you go back into catalog1, all of your images/collections/etc, are still there. As they should be.
So, you say you didn't see anything in your exported catalog? Are you sure you are opening the same catalog you just exported, or have you opened a new blank one that you created, accidentally or not? That would be my guess.
I think you should start over, and very carefully take it one step at a time.
Dj has suggested not using include negatives, and I can see where that might be useful. However, if you do that, you will end up having images from two different catalogs in the same folder. This will cause problems if you ever use the "sync folder" option, as it will attempt to load all images in that folder into your current catalog. Which means you could easilly end up with all your images in both catalogs. Messy. So to avoid this, use a new place instead. You can also avoid having to do the "import to catalog" step by exporting the negatives at the same time. Don't worry about exporting previews, though.
First, find a new place (external disk, whatever) to create a new catalog in. Do _not_ create the new catalog your self! Make sure you are sending everything to a new place!
Now, go into catalog1, and select all of the images you want to export. They have to be selected, or nothing happens, and you'll just get a blank catalog.
Now, export as catalog those images into the new location, and make sure you are copying the negatives too! Double check before you hit go!
Now, using LR, open that new catalog; you can either double click on the new one, or browse to open it. Either way. Verify that your images are in the new place and everything looks good. You can see in the Folders tab on the left panel to make sure the images are in the right place in the new folder.
At this point, you should have 2 and a half catalogs; your new catalog with only the images you exported, and the old catalog, with all of your images.
Now, you have a couple of choices. But before you do either of them, make sure you backup your system, including all of the images in the original catalog. If you've messed up making the new catalog (you should be able to tell!) then you want to make sure your original catalog can be restored.
Open your original catalog again, and now remove all of the images you exported. You will need to use the "remove from disk" option, as they will stay in the folders if you don't. This would cause the above problem with "sync folder", and of course, use double the disk space.
You can obviuosly see why I said to back everything up first; if you messed up the export by not including the negatives, you could easilly delete your originals, and not have them _anywhere_, in which case you would have to restore from back up and try again.
You now have two separate catalogs.
Remember, backup everything first, and good luck!
Cheers! -
I imported different trips to different catalogs on different external hard drives. Later renamed external HDs. I want to combine catalogs and have my source (NEF) files all together on one drive. I’m not really sure how to get those source files back and get rid of the extra long path to where the source files are now located. If I re-link files to their current catalog (many different paths to files in same catalog) can I merge (import catalogs) into one master catalog? Will the new (Master catalog) have the correct link to the source file? If not, how or can this be done?
I have tried to explain my situation as clearly as I can. Do you understand my situation?
This maybe something you don’t have time to help me with. If not can you suggest somewhere I can get an answer? I really need help. PLEEEZZZ HELP ME.
Bruce Schuerman
Norman, OK
405_514-4875 (call collect)
[email protected]Is there any solution (other than buying
I really think 'buying' is the best solution on this one. Ideally, you would have at least five internal hard drives.
System
Projects
Cache/Scratch
Media
Exports
Use externals and network drive only for backup. -
How to use an external drive with 2 Macs?
Using an external drive for LR 5.4 files and can download and view without any issues on my MacBook. However, when the same drive is attached to my iMac I cannot download or view any files on the external drive that were added after March of this year. Any ideas on how to go about resolving this issue?
The following screenshot might be helpful. It shows where in Lr preferences you can configure which catalog Lr uses as the default. If you need to direct it to an external drive then use the 'Other' option to point to this drive then next time Lr launches set it back 'Load most recent catalog'
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Due to divorce, all my music is on my iTunes and iPod. I have had to buy a new laptop and want to transfer the library to the new computer before deauthorizing the old one. I dont want to have to use an external drive every time I want to listen to my music. How can I do this and have the same basic iTunes setup as before? HELP!
You might consider itunes match for moving CDs you've copied into your itunes library if you dont have a way to use home sharing.
iTunes match is an optional service offered by apple that costs about $25 a year. It scans your music library and if it finds music that is already in apple's itunes catalog it'll automatically "unlock"/"store" these in the cloud for you. Items that it does not find in the catalog it'll upload and store these in the cloud for you and you can download them on your devices. See http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/ -
Using an external hard drive for both TM backups
I would like to use an external hard drive for both TM and as the main hard drive storage for my Macbook which is now approaching being full...how do I do this ??? or should I have 2 separate devices....want to free up space on Macbook
Now that I've partitioned my I Terabyte external drive to two partitions using the disk utility with one partition for Time Machine and one partition as my new "hard drive"...my internal drive on the MacBook almost filled....I wanted to move...pix, movies, music..etc to the new drive and have all future storage pointed to that drive not the internal drive....need to have space available on the original drive on the MacBook....How do I move existing stored data and point ongoining saved music..files...etc to the new drive...???
Thank you...Bob -
LR 5 won't open a catalog on my external HD due to "volume" issue
Sorry for the length of this post. Just trying to get as much into to everyone early on. I recently purchased an MacbookPro laptop and downloaded LR 5. I had been doing all my LR5 work on my iMac with my images and LR catalog on a Seagate external HD. When I opened LR on the laptop and attempted to open the catalog on the external HD it wouldn't open and I got the following error message: "Lightroom cannot launch with this catalog. It is either on a network volume or on a volume on which Lightroom cannot save changes". Then it give the location of the catalog which starts /Volumes/HD drive name/Lightroom/Lightroom 5 catalog.lrcat. I saw a posting on the forum with a similar problem but that involved going from LR4 to LR5. One of the responders suggested copying the lrcat file onto the desktop and open it there. I did this and the catalog opened in LR. Not sure why it would open this way and not using the "Open Catalog" in the LR drop down menu. I was able to back up the catalog and now my desktop has the lrcat and lrdata file plus a folder containing the backups. I want to keep everything on my external HD. So I have two questions. 1) Anyone have any idea what the error message means? and 2) Can I just delete the lrcat and lrdata file on my external HD and just copy the files on my desktop to the HD? Please be kind, my 10 year old niece knows more about computers that I do.
99jon, just made a major discovery based on more research. The two old drives are show a NTFS Windows NT File System format. The newest one shows Mac OS X format. I understand that the HD has to be formatted properly to be used on a Mac. That kind of solves the problem but raises a new set of questions. How in the world would it work on my other Apple computers if they are formatted for NTFS. I've never used these on a Windows computer. Based on my reading it seems like I need to copy all the files over to the new Mac OS X formatted drive then reformat the old drives in the Mac OS X format. Your thoughts?
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Is it possible to use an external hard drive for time machine backup and also as a regular hard drive?
I am using an external drive in the exact way that you described. You just keep it plugged in to the computer when you want to access the movies and files. In order to put files on it, just go to finder open up the drive under devices and drag and drop files onto the drive. It is just like using a usb drive with a terabyte of space.
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How can I access a Photoshop Elements catalog on an external hard disc from both: Mac and Windows PC
How can the directories and path be named, that catalog can access the same picture files.
TZachmann wrote:
How can the directories and path be named, that catalog can access the same picture files.
That means you should have both your files and your catalog on the external drive, and you plug in your external drive alternatively to one or the other computer.
Are your picture files already on the external drive ? If they are, you only need to copy the catalog folder to the external drive, as explained later,
otherwise, simply do a backup/restore to the external drive, with the choice to restore on custom location.
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html
(moving to the external drive is similar to moving to another computer)
Moving the catalog :
First locate where your catalog folder is situated : menu help / system info.
Copy the whole folder to the external drive.
In the copied catalog, double click the catalog.pse12db file, that will open the organizer and the new catalog. It will appear in the 'custom location' section in the catalog manager.
Backup and restore solution : restore on 'custom location', that is to a new master folder created on the external drive.
The first time you are using the catalog on either computer, you'll have to use the catalog manager (file / catalog...) to browse to the external drive location of the catalog. After that, the location will be remembered in each computer. -
Trouble using an external hard drive
Here's my situation: I have a fourth generation iPod touch with about 1700 songs, 10 or so podcast subscriptions, and my apps all set up with ratings, etc. Due to size of my PC's hard drive, I have to use an external hard drive to run iTunes with my supporting music and podcast files. This is the G: drive. I do NOT want iTunes to use my C: drive for any purpose. In Preferences, I have the iTunes media folder location set to G:\Music and would like all of my music, podcats, and apps to be stored in that location.
The problem I'm having is about once every two weeks or so, the external hard drive will get bumped or jarred and disconnect during a sync. Instead of stopping the sync and failing, iTunes will automatically move everything over to the C: drive and blow up my memory, create a new library, etc.
I have to delete this off my C: drive, which clears everything out of iTunes, and go to File > Add Folder to Library to restore all of my music and podcasts. It loses all of my ratings and I have to resubscribe to all podcasts (and delete the list of episodes I've already listened to). If I sync the iPod, it will delete all of the music and podcasts on the iPod because it thinks it has been synced to a different library when it just synced to a different drive. How in the world can I prevent iTunes from using the C: drive, and if it does, how can I transfer music and podcasts from my iPod to the iTunes library without losing 1,700 ratings?
Next question, when I a File > Transfer Purchases From iPod without syncing to get my Apps back, how do I make the apps go to G:\Music instead of C:\ drive?
ThanksWhen you first opened the catalog on new Win7 laptop, was it the same catalog that you used on old laptop?
You may indeed have permissions set for the catalog folder. They could belong to the user of the old laptop. Did you try checking the permissions on the new Win7 laptop? -
RDE: Using an external ODATA service
Hi,
I'm trying to use an external oData service in a RDE "SAP Fiori Start application" Project.
I've added the service to the HCP Destinations page as well as giving it the additional property "RDEEnabled=true" but it still doesn't appear in the RDE: Data Connection screen in the catalog.
Any tips?
Thanks,
DickHello Richard,
then this environment would have to provide an OData service /IWFND/CATALOGSERVICE with a collection ServiceCollection that has the same structure as the one provided by NetWeaver Gateway, because this is what the River RDE "SAP Fiori Start application" template uses to find applicable services.
Best regards
Frank -
So I work with various Catalogs on my MacBook. I believe most everyone has the same workflow. Creating Catalogs are a great way to improve the performance of Lr and a great tool for archiving.
The problem is the following: When backing up these Catalogs to an external HD and removing the Catalog from the MacBook. All of the pictures synched to Lr Mobile from these Catalogs are erased.
This is uncool. I think Lr Mobile at the very least should display a low quality JPG as Lr Desktop application does.
Here is a toke, I noticed on my iPhone that even though the pictures are gone, my used memory remains high. I tried clearing cache but it didn't move the needle.
So it seems as Lr Mobile knows there were some pictures synched, and recognizes that these pictures are no longer present, but fails to erase them from memory.
1) Need Low quality JPGs on Lr Mobile to show pictures of your synched catalogs that are not longer the catalogs been worked on.
2) Lr Mobile (iPhone?) memory issues.
Thanks,
DanielSo I work with various Catalogs on my MacBook. I believe most everyone has the same workflow. Creating Catalogs are a great way to improve the performance of Lr and a great tool for archiving.
The problem is the following: When backing up these Catalogs to an external HD and removing the Catalog from the MacBook. All of the pictures synched to Lr Mobile from these Catalogs are erased.
This is uncool. I think Lr Mobile at the very least should display a low quality JPG as Lr Desktop application does.
Here is a toke, I noticed on my iPhone that even though the pictures are gone, my used memory remains high. I tried clearing cache but it didn't move the needle.
So it seems as Lr Mobile knows there were some pictures synched, and recognizes that these pictures are no longer present, but fails to erase them from memory.
1) Need Low quality JPGs on Lr Mobile to show pictures of your synched catalogs that are not longer the catalogs been worked on.
2) Lr Mobile (iPhone?) memory issues.
Thanks,
Daniel -
How do i use an external display with my macbook pro?
How do I use an external display with a macbook pro?
Just buy the proper adapter cord, such as MiniDisplay port to HDMI for example. Plug it in and it will be automatically recognized. Use System Preferences > Displays to set options.
The display can Mirror your primary desktop or Extend the Desktop.
Regards,
Captfred
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