SKF as a Tracing Factor for an Overhead Cost Assessment to PA

Hi,
I am trying to use a Statistical Key Figure as a user defined tracing factor for a periodic settlement (KEU5) of overhead costs into PA.
However I am running into difficulties trying to configure this.
Has anyone out there know how to do this and give me some pointers
I am getting an error message GA733. Incidentally I get the same error message when trying to perform a similar settlement in CCA using KSU5.
Im using ECC6.0
Many thanks.

Hi Dawn
Not clear about your requirement... You have captured expenses in IOs? or In Cost Center?
Your question is bit confusing as you want to capture SKF against IO, but you said you want to allocate cost centers.. So, I am confused
You can capture SKF against IO in KB31N... If you want to allocate expenses from IO based on SKF to COPA - use note 605281 so that IOs can be used as senders in assmt or dist cycle...
Regards
Ajay M

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In assessment cycle, if skf is used as tracing factor, how can I see this setting of skf in the cycle?
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Hi,
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1)
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1)
SKF quantity is assigned to receiving cost center. Later sender cost center base on the quantity in receiving cost center to apportion out the cost.
This is how the SKF distribution works by standard
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I dint get your point here
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Kindly help me How to Calculate Tracing Factor in Assessment Cycle
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1. If you are using Assessment Cycle for allocation of cost among cost centers, then, the Receiver Tracing Factor selection will by and large depend on your allocation purpose and basis.
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