Skinning in 11.1.2.2 (horizontal lines issue)

Hello,
I followed Shays on-line tutorial
[https://blogs.oracle.com/shay/entry/adf_faces_skin_editor_how]
It was very helpful and informative and I defined new colours for all the images using the skinning editor
However, I now have the situation depicted in this image link
[http://i48.tinypic.com/zsg83.png]
Is there a way to avoid the horizontal lines on the Form?
As you can see, containers don't have the same issue (although you can see the horizontal lines between the accordion and the panelobox components).
Has anyone else encountered the same problem?
Thanks
p.s. does anyone know what I need to change for the top part of the showdetailitem in the panneltabbed container to be red as well instead of white? (the bit just below the tabs)

for future reference (my own)
when adjusting the colour scheme on the skin editor image tab, avoid changing .AFLightBackground and .AFLightestNeutralBackground
Adjusting either of these appears to create horizontal lines on the most basic of JSF pages

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