SLD - Technical System Types: Third-Party vs. Standalone Java

Hi all,
can somebody explain what´s the difference between the technical system types
"Third-Party" and "Standalone Java"
Please give also one example for a standalon java type.
Thanks,
Kris

Hi Kris,
1. Third Party: Can be any Tech System. For example you want to send a xml message from a file adapter residing on your PC. You can define your PC as a 3rd party Tech/Business System.
2. StandAlone Java: WEBAS640 has bot Basis and Java Stacks. If you installed only the standalone java Stack on a server, then you define a standalone java tech system.
For more info check the XI-3.0 Help documentation.
Regards
Prasad

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>>are they generated automatically? at which time? whats the trigger for them to appear?
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check this link
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>>>>Is it at the time of installation.
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