SLI questions about Z97 Gaming 7

Greetings, folks!
I've accidentally tore off the 2nd PCI-E slot on attempting to remove its VGA for maintenance. Don't ask me how! Somehow the VGA lock bracket hadn't worked as usual.
Well, my question is: SLI works from 1st slot to the 3rd slot? I've not found any SLI bridges of that long, because the out-of-the-box bridge is too short. There's any risks on leaving the PCI-E tracks exposed? The board won't power on while they're touching themselves, but is working like a charm, sustaining my 4.6GHz i7 4790K.
Thanks a lot, everybody. Peace.

Should have 120mm long bridge online (I think it's enough?).

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Quick question about Z97 Gaming 5 fan headers

How many fans can I daisy-chain in one of the CPU and System fan header?
I'm adding a few corsair sp120s silent edition non-pwm and want to have control of the speed from BIOS.

Quote from: badboy2k on 08-March-15, 01:53:46
how any you can daisy chain is down to mainly how much each fan draws power wise!
the SP120 Quiet editions are fairly low .08A draw fans so you may be able to power upto 2 off one header as long as they are low power draw fans (below .15A per fan)!
thank's for this info

Question about Series, Gaming X, GDXX, HXX ? Which is better?

I have been seen lots of acronyms that I don't know what it mean to be.
What make me decide for z97 GD65 Gaming instead z97 Gaming 7 was the price, the GD65 was more expensive so I thought if is more expensive, is better!
The questions is: What's means GD? H? or just gaming séries? have difference between these acronyms? What GD/H means exactly?
The z97 GD65 have a mSata and gaming 7 have m.2 Port and I still don't understand why z97 gd65 gaming is more expensive.
Can you guys clear my mind?

There are slight differences, and the price difference (here in the US anyway....) is only $10 depending on where you get those 2 boards.
The GD65 has VGA and DVI video outputs for the CPU video.
The Gaming 7 has HDMI and Display Port outputs for the CPU video.
The GD65 has mSATA while the Gaming 7 has M.2.
The GD65 has 6 USB ports (4USB 3.0, 2USB 2.0) and the Gaming 7 has 10 (8USB 3.0, 2USB 2.0).
There's minor differences, but they are there.

A Question about Z97A Gaming 9 ACK

Hello there guys.
I'm upgrading my PC and I would like a good Z97 Chipset motherboard.
I've found that the "Z97A Gaming 9 ACK" Would be a good one, I've found the specs to suit me.
But the problem is. I can't find it!!!
Like anywhere! It's out of stock from websites like NewEgg. and not even on Amazon!.
No one reviewed it before and not even a video about it on YouTube!.
Despite it's good specs and from a well known company!
You only can find it on not very well known website and with low In-Stock numbers.
Is it like... RARE?! or did MSI Get it out of the market maybe because the Few problems that people had?
Should I buy it or consider getting the Gaming 7 at a lower price?
I need an advice.
Thanks guys!

Quote from: Nichrome on 15-June-15, 22:40:35
Where do you live? Country
Quote from: badboy2k on 16-June-15, 04:56:28
looks like he is in Saudi Arabia if i'm reading it right for his area location where he comes from!
Just like "badboy2k" said I live in Saudi Arabia.
But im definitely sure that I'll not find it over here you know
But i've found one in one of the biggest dedicated PC components websites located in Saudi Arabia.
Softland: http://goo.gl/KJrKwi (English Website)
You need to register to reveal the price. I registered and now it says please contact us for the price.
Im going to contact them and ask them about the Gaming 7 and the Gaming 9 ACK Prices and compare them.
But if you have any other trusted websites out there like in the US or the UK, Feel free to tell me.
Thank you guys again and sorry for my bad English.

Question about R7500 ( Gaming Related )

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MSI Z97 GAMING 3 Review--Performance Testing

After the previous hardware and software introduction, I believe Z97 GAMING 3 will meet gamers’ expectation.
Z97 GAMING 3 integrated with Killer E2200 LAN, Audio Boost 2, M.2 interface and the normal array of connections,
It is truly a good gaming motherboard. Could all these features offer great performance and a good experience?
Today I will test the performance of Z97 GAMING 3 and how good it is.
MSI Z97 GAMING 3 Testing
My test platform is MSI Z97 GAMING 3, Intel ® Core i7-4770K and MSI GeForce GTX 750 graphics card. The test
consists of two parts:
CPU Performance: Super PI, PC Mark Vantage and Cinebench R11.5.
GAMING Performance: 3DMARK 11, Evil 6 Benchmark and FFXI Benchmark.
Test Part 1
CPU : Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.5 GHz
CPU Cooler : Thermaltake TT-8085A
Motherboard : MSI Z97 GAMING 3
RAM : Corsair DDR 3-1600 4GB X 2
PSU : Cooler Master 350W
OS : Windows 7 64 bit
Basic performance testing (CPU setting by default)
CPU Mark Score : 679.
Super PI 32M Result – 8m53.897s.
Graphics Performance Testing：3DMark 11
3DMark 11 is designed to measure PC’s performance. It makes extensive use of all the new features in DirectX 11
including Tessellation, Compute Shader and Multi-threading.
Intel ® HD4600 iGPU in 3DMark 11 Basic mode testing, the results is X385 Score.
Performance mode test score is P1511 .
System Performance：PCMark Vantage
PCMark Vantage is a PC analysis and benchmarking tool consisting of a mix of applications such as based and
synthetic tests that measure system performance.
From the test results, the score of Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel ® HD4600 iGPU is 11,946.
MSI GeForce GTX 750 Testing
Test Part 2
CPU : Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.5 GHz
CPU Cooler : Thermaltake TT-8085A
Motherboard : MSI Z97 GAMING 3
Graphics Card：MSI GeForce GTX 750
RAM : Corsair DDR 3-1600 4GB X 2
PSU : Cooler Master 350W
OS : Windows 7 64 bit
Graphics Performance Testing：3DMark 11
Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 the test scores is X1653 in 3DMark 11 basic test mode, The performance
mode test score is P5078.
System Performance：PC Mark Vantage
From the test results, Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 scores 11,518.
System Performance：Cinebench R11.5
Cinebench is the software developed by MAXON Cinema 4D. Cinebench could test CPU and GPU performance with
different processes at the same time. For the CPU part, Cinebench test the CPU performance by displaying a HD 3D
scene. For the GPU part, Cinebench test GPU performance based on OpenGL capacity.
Main Processor Performance (CPU) - The test scenario uses all of your system's processing power to render a photorealistic
3D scene. Graphics Card Performance (OpenGL) - This procedure uses a complex 3D scene depicting a car chase which
measures the performance of your graphics card in OpenGL mode.
In Cinebench R11.5 test, MSI Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 multi-core test is 6.87pts; OpenGL score is 73.48 fps.
Z97 GAMING 3 with HD 4600 and GeForce GTX 750 in the GAME Benchmark Test
For game performance testing, I will use Resident Evil 6 and FFXI Benchmark with the same platform.
Evil 6 Benchmark
CPU: Core i7-4770K
Game resolution setting: 1920X1080
Other setting: Default
In the Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel® HD4600 iGPU platform, score:1175 (Rank D)
In the Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 platform, score: 5874 (Rank A)
I use Fraps tool to record FPS status during benchmark testing.The Z97 GAMING 3 with GeForce GTX 750 average
FPS is 202. The Z97 GAMING 3 with Intel® HD4600 iGPU average FPS is 32.
FFXIV Benchmark
CPU: Core i7-4770K
Game resolution setting: 1920X1080
Other setting: Default
The 1920X1080 resolution, Intel® HD4600 iGPU score is only 910.
However, the GeForce GTX 750 testing score is 4167. According to the official classification system, the score
between 3000 to 4499 means high performance.
I use Fraps tool to recorded FPS status during benchmark testing.
the GeForce GTX 750 average FPS is 111. Intel® HD4600 iGPU average FPS is 19.
Test Summary
MSI Z97 GAMING 3 is not very expensive. It has many features which are specially designed for gaming experience
and good performance of benchmarks. Even in 1920x1200 resolution and high quality display setting, Z97 GAMING 3
with Intel Core i7-4770K and MSI GeForce GTX 750 can easily handle any kind of games. The FPS of this system is
higher than 60 and users will enjoy no lag as gaming. It is really a good and afforadable chioce for gamers.

Thx for the sharing, since there are not much reviews about Z97 GAMING 3.

K9N2 SLI Platinum - JPW2 connection essential? Also, question about diagLEDs

I've been running a K9N2 SLI Platinum with a Phenom 9950BE and 2 Geforce 9800GT video cards for half a year now, running as stable as any computer could and I couldn't be happier. However, there's one thing that I've always had a question about - the molex connection on the board labeled JPW2. The manual says that JPW2 is "used to provide power to stable the operation of graphics card", but using the PCI-E connectors on the card appears to be adqeuate to running a stable system.
In regards to this though, am I running the risk of an underpowering my motherboard not having JPW2 plugged in? The 24-pin and 8-pin power connectors on the board are of course plugged in and my concern is merely (hopefully!) academic at this point, but I'm just curious if not having power running through JPW2 would cause any problems down the line. My components are power hogs and I believe my power supply is up to it, but I'd love it if someone wiser than I could indulge my curiousity.
Also, my diagnostic LEDS are reading something other than four green solid lights in normal operation (successful POST, Windows loaded and running). If you were to view the motherboard correctly mounted in the case, the order of the lights are: [G][R][R][G]. The manual refers to this as "BIOS Sign On - This will start showing information about logo, processor brand name, etc..." which is as incredibly unhelpful as it can be when it comes to this sort of thing. I state again that this doesn't effect normal operation - it's just another thing that I'm curious about.
Thank you for helping me put my mind to rest!
SPECS
K9N2 SLI Platinum
AMD Phenom 9950BE
8GB G.Skill 800MHz DDR2 RAM
2x Geforce 9800GT 1GB
Seagate Barracuda ST3320620AS 320GB HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB HDD
LITE-ON DH-20A4P-04 20x DVD-DL Writer
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W ATX Power Supply
CM Storm Sniper ATX Case
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

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1. Will not plugging in JPW2 will adversely affect system performance stability.
No, but its recommended to be connected.
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2. Diagnostic led is shoring GRRG during normal use. No apparent adverse effects. Manual quite unhelpful. Cause?
If the system works OK ignore it. Else ask here: http://ocss.msi.com/

Question about MSI K8N SLI Platinum

i have a question about this mobo.
my previous msi boards had a feature where if u overclocked too much, and the system couldnt handle it, it would load the default settings in the bios. I really liked this feature and am wondering if it will be present in this board.
is it?

sorry m8 after that post i double checked and i thought you were talking about neo1 - didnt notice the SLI bit . i think a couple of others got caught by that one too.
so i did some investigating:
it uses the same award phoenix bios 6.00PG as neo1 and 2. every board i have owned since kt266a fom various manufacturers with that bios has had that feature. plus the insert key trick even works on a lot of 486 and early pentium 1 machines. i am still 99% sure it will put it that way.

Question about Z87-GD65 Gaming 7.1 HD Audio

Hi, I am interested in the new Z87 GD65 gaming motherboard, it looks cool but I have a question about the 7.1 HD Audio.
Does it only support through S/PDIF output? or, by using the Sound Blaster Cinema suite, it able to simulate virtual 7.1 surround
to my Stereo headset, just like other standalone 7.1 virtual sound cards do?
Sorry for poor English
Thanks in advance.

Quote from: mongkb on 06-June-13, 12:49:25
Does it only support through S/PDIF output?
Yes.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87-GD65-GAMING.html
Click on Specifications / Detail.
Audio
• Realtek® ALC1150 Codec
- 7.1-Channel High Definition Audio
- Supports S/PDIF output

Just purchased Z97 Gaming 7 and was wondering about Compatibility with RAM

Hello there,
Just purchased the Z97 Gaming 7 MB and was wondering if it is compatible with the following RAM -
Kingston HyperX 16 GB 1600 Mhz CL9 DDR3 HyperX Beast Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 8GB) - Intel XMP
G.Skill 16GB Ripjaws X Dual Channel Memory Kit - Blue (2x 8GB, DDR3 1600MHz,1.5v, F3-1600C9D-16GXM, XMP Ready)
Corsair CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz CL9 XMP Performance Desktop Memory Kit Black
Regarding the Kingston, the model number specified in the MSI compatibility list of this board is very similar to the ram I've listed.
Thanks in advance and feel free to share your opinion on the rams or if you recommend anything else.
Thanks

Quote from: Sea Dog on 06-August-14, 14:36:13
It's too late for that. OP inquired about Z97, this has taken a turn to a Z87 and a debate.
Seems you have a bit to learn about RAM speed and actual performance achieved. Over 1866 doesn't show much gain. Higher the speed the more you have to 'loosen' the timings, :: rest of quote snipped ::
Yes, I probably could learn a thing or two about memory I suppose. I don't claim to be an expert on this subject. But, I've built several systems (always with Asus boards...) for 15 years or so for myself, family, and friends. I have a BS in computer science and masters in Electrical Engineering working in the SCADA/Control Systems field (look it up) so I do know a thing or two. I've never had a problem till now, my first MSI board.
I'm not sure how responding to a thread, hoping a user’s experience with memory would benefit me, is "hijacking" a thread but call it what you will. I don't recall too much of a debate except from you and the forum memory expert (not the GSKill guy, the other guy...) so back off. Funny how MSI's recommended memory list(s) prominently mention GSKill as being compatible multiple times with my exact memory, the F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH, being listed as well. Yet, GSKill is up to something funny with their timings which benefit only Asus or whatever while causing problems on everyone else motherboards.
For future reference, I'm not claiming anything in particular (such as memory) is causing my system to crash. I saw the forum sticky about GSKill memory and this thread which mentions GSkill. Since I'm using GSkill, which I have for multiple system builds without issues in the past, I began to wonder about something. After all, things do happen. Perhaps I simply got some bad sticks or something. It does happen regardless of brand/vendor.
For the record, I suspect the stupid Killer NIC, its driver, and/or system tray panel are to blame for my issue(s). The more I think about this NIC, the more I hate it. Give a boost to a specific app/game for better performance. That's marketing BS. All it does is give a specific app/game priority by purposely dropping performance of all the other apps so the designated process looks better relative to the other programs on the same system. I call that false advertising and potentially something worse.
Time will ultimately tell where my issue is.
MSI may have lost a customer...
The best of everything to everyone here and enjoy the rest of the day,
Chris

MSI's Z97 Gaming 5 temperature question

Hey there again!
I would like to ask about one of sensor's temperature display on my motherboard MSI Z97 Gaming 5. As you can see on the picture, TMPIN3 temperature is what I am concerned about. What exactly is that? And why that temperature is so high? It's shown under motherboard sensors so I guess it's the mobo temp sensor isn't it?

Quote from: Speancer on 05-July-14, 03:16:00
Yeah, but what I ment was:
Quote from: asphyxia
mine is 40-41c, something is wrong and i got same motherboard
In fact he is another overclocker with unstable system and high TMPIN3/PECI temps:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=181499.0
"btw whats the safe temp for TMPIN3? under load it goes 76c"
Quote from: Speancer
And then you said that sensor is close to CPU so temps will be simillar to core/package temperatures. Well, if it is I guess it's normal. Hard to keep that CPU running under 70 degrees though. Under normal use like games or archivization in WinRAR temps never go so high, only in torture test.
Is that dangerous for the motherboard if temperatures are too high? Could it get damaged? I mean temperatures like 80+ degrees.
What's your Core / TMPIN3 / PECI temps with the CPU running at stock settings (4 GHz)?
What's your Core / TMPIN3 / PECI temps with the CPU running in Turbo mode (4.4 GHz)?
If they are OK, you don't have any issue.
If you want to overclock, please use the proper forum section: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0
I don't offer support for this kind of activities.

Question about Tritton AX 720 Dolby Digital Surround Gaming Headset

Hello, I have a question about the AX 720 that I hope someone can answer. I emailed Tritton and I'm not sure they understood what I was asking, so Ill try here. Ok, my question is this, Will I get audio through the headset if my set up is this: My X-BOX 360, my PS3 , and my Direct TV box are all hooked up to my TV via HDMI. My TV has an optical audio output, so if I hook up the AX 720's amp to my TV with the optical cable will I get the audio that is coming from that output into my headset? I'm using the Tritton AX 180's now hooked up almost exactly the same, except instead of the optical out, I'm using the red and white out that is right next to the optical out, and it works perfect. I get full audio from all 3, and the only time I have to change any cables is when I want to chat, but thats rare. I'm looking to upgrade to the 720 because I'm on my 3rd set of broken AX 180's. Ive read several reviews about the 720's and a few of them said that if your TV has an optical output that you can use that, and I hope its true. I hope this question makes sense, and thanks in advance for the help.

@Rockadile: You are totally right about the AX 180's breaking, like I said Im on my 3rd set. Thankfully for the first break it was within the return period, then I made sure to buy the warranty when I got the second. Now that the 3rd has broken in the same exact place Im done with these. The problem is my heads big (wide), and because of this theres extra pressure on the plastic piece that connects to the ear piece. I had to make a custom metal bracket to fix it. What I did was take 2 pieces of flat metal and bent them into the shape and angle of the plastic that attaches the earpiece, then I electrical taped them VERY tight. So basically instead of the plastic getting the stress, the metal does. And it worked great up until now, its breaking just below the adjustable part where the plastic goes into top of the headset. I looked at the AX 720's and it seems like there alot wider and stronger in that area. But if I do get them I will be sure to buy the replacement warranty. Sucks having a big head!

MSI Z97 Gaming 7 PWM Fan setting question

Hello, right now I'm using Z87 motherboard from others vendor (as***k), and now I want to change my motherboard to MSI Z97 Gaming 7. But there's something that I want to ask first. When I'm using still using Z77 motherboard which is MSI Z77A-G45, I can set the PWM fan to change it speed automatically by change the CPU fan to auto in the UEFI. But in the Z87 I currently use I have to customize it in the UEFI, so that my PWM CPU fan change its speed as the CPU temperature changes, it can't be set to auto and I don't like it at all. Now that I want to change my motherboard to MSI Z97 Gaming 7, I'm searching the review first. And I'm seeing that it have similar fan setting with the Z87 motherboard that I currently use
I want to ask, is it possible that I can set the CPU fan setting to auto just like the Z77A-G45 I used to have?

Quote from: Abula on 19-May-14, 08:22:10
What you are seeing is mulitple breakpoints of temperature, as you do on your AsRock.
I own a Z87GD65, and in mine i only have 1 true breakpoints, which is the temperature in which you want the fans to speed up, according to the temperature of the cpu. I als did a build for a friend on a Z77GD43 and it was similar just didnt had the graph, as it has on the Z87GD65 nor the new one that you posted on the Z97 Gaming7, but what i see is more customization on the new motherboard, with 4 different breaking points, i see the same restrictions on the PWM %, increments of 12.5% as it is on my GD65, weather its worth it, personally i dont care, one is good enough for me, i usually just spin down my fans to the lowest i can, and set the breakpoints for the temperature i want my fans to spin up, if the temperature is reach they will increase gradually, defined by the max PWM % and max temperature, this two variables (that you can change) will make the graph with more or less inclination. In the new Z97 Gaming 7, seems the same just multiple breakpoints, meaning you can have different inclinations into how the fans react depending on the temperature, weather its worth it or not.... depends on the level of customization you want to the fan control, personally im fine with a single, but i can see people that could like having depending on their needs, personally what i would have loved though, is to give me 10% increments instead of 12.5%, or 5% would been better, but 12.5% just seems odd number imo.
Remember, MSI only has 2 true PWM fan headers, CPU_FAN1 and CPU_FAN2, even though all are 4pin physically the SYS_FAN are not true pwm fan headers, they are voltage controlled and have much higher restrictions than the real PWM fan headers. And remember that if you plug 3pin fans on PWM fan headers they will spin at 12V that its the voltage that its handled by PWM fans, so be careful what fan you plug into where to have control on them.
Hmn, so since Z87 MSI use that breakpoint system to control PWM fan, just like my asrock Z87. So there's no auto setting on your Z87GD65?

Msi z97 gaming 5 bios update help

Hello I recently purchased the msi z97 gaming 5 motherboard. It was working fine it came with bios version 1.0 and I wanted to update it. I downloaded the latest 1.5 bios from msi website copied to usb flash drive and flashed it using mflash. Computer powers on but black screen wont do nothing. I cleared cmos and battery and still nothing so I am pretty sure its bricked. I am going to store to exchange it for another one but I want to be able to safely update the bios without bricking again. I usually dont update bios unless needed but i need at least 1.2 bios to fully support the devils canyon cpu. Can someone please point me in the right direction? I read about the usb flashing tool in forum but also read that bios+me need to be flashed and I don't know if that program is up to date and will flash both files? I really appreciate it if someone helped thanks in advance.

Also does anyone know if it is dangerous to update the bios with a 4690k devils canyon cpu since it is not officially supported until 1.2? Is that why my first bios flash was bricked? I would hate to go and borrow another cpu just to update the bios but if I have to I will. Sorry for all the questions but I need to get my bios updated and I will not update it until I am sure of all these things. Thanks to anyone who answers these questions.

Z97 GAMING 7: Windows won't install

I've just built a new machine and am having no luck installing Windows. My basic components:
Z97 GAMING 7 motherboard
i7-4790k processor
32GB Crucial Ballistix RAM
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 graphics card
LG WH16NS40 optical drive
Samsung 840 PRO SSD
When I boot using my new retail Windows 8.1 disc, all I get is the small blue Windows startup window on the screen; after 20-30 seconds of listening to the disc spin, some little white lights dance in a circle at the bottom of the screen, then the computer restarts and does the whole thing again. That's it -- no welcome screen, no installation instructions, nothing.
Here's what I've already tried:
- I've updated the BIOS to the latest version
- I've switched the drives to different SATA ports
- I've configured the SATA modes to AHCI
- I've played with various other settings in the BIOS
- I've tried both the 64-bit and the 32-bit versions of Windows 8.1
- I've tried a prior version of Windows (same result but without the blue window and dancing lights)
- I've confirmed my optical drive and hard drive work fine; I get the same results even when I use other drives
The BIOS appears to be working perfectly and recognizes all of my components as far as I can tell. The optical drive is obviously reading information from the Windows disc, since I'm at least getting a Windows icon. This is my second build, and I had zero issues with my first one, so I'm reasonably confident I've connected everything properly (though I'm certainly capable of mistakes). I'm now at a loss.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated; I'm happy to answer any other questions about the machine or what I've done so far. Thanks!

Hi,
I can see you have a BluRay optical drive. Are you able to use standard DVD drive (which doesn't support BluRay) ?
What is your PSU?
Try without graphics card and use only integrated GPU.
Also see if it would try to install with single RAM stick.
Also you could try this (again):
Disconnect all drives but have your SSD and optical drive connected (if you have more than these 2)
>>Clear CMOS Guide<<
Go into BIOS, set optical drive as #1, SSD as #2.
Reboot with the installation disc inside the drive
It most likely will ask you if you want to boot from optical drive blah blah then spam couple of different buttons.
See if boots/tries to install

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