Slipping Keyframes: Yes? or NO?!

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When you slip a clip with keyframes in the Timeline, do you want its keyframes to slip along with the clip?
In my case, 99% of the time, I DON'T!  Why?  Because the vast majority of the time, I set motion/effect/audio keyframes based on events in the sequence (i.e. music cues, dialogue, other clips/cuts, titles, etc), NOT based on the content of the clip itself.  However, in Premiere you can't slip a clip without its keyframes slipping too.  In After Effects, it's the opposite, slipping a clip NEVER slips the clip's keyframes.  The After Effects team gets it, that an editor's workflow requires keyframes to stay put when slipping a clip.  So why doesn't Premiere Pro's team get it too?
This is a huge editing headache for me and no doubt for so many other editors.  Thankfully, the solution could be so simple:
Slip a clip = Keyframes don't Slip
CTRL-Slip (or Command-Slip) a clip = Keyframes slip together with the clip (current PP behavior)
This solution would accommodate all workflows, allowing keyframes to slip or stay put depending on the situation!  So to answer the question of "Slipping Keyframes: Yes or No?", I say give us the power to decide!
What do you think? 
I've sent FRs to Adobe for this in the past but it seems we still won't get a fix for this in CS Next, so I'm hoping to get others on board, sending Adobe their own FRs so we can finally get this part of Premiere Pro working intelligently, the way After Effects does.  Here's the link for your FRs: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish (there's power in numbers, so if you've ever been annoyed with Premiere's slipping keyframes, please add your voice with a formal FR!)

Thanks for adding your voices DMH79 and BingoFriday.
I just added my formal FR (forum members, please feel free to copy/paste this FR and send to Adobe in your own words).  Here it is:
*******Enhancement / FMR*********
Brief title for your desired feature:  User control over keyframe slipping
How would you like the feature to work?
Slip a clip = Keyframes don't Slip
CTRL-Slip (or Command-Slip) a clip = Keyframes slip together with the clip (current PP behavior)
Why is this feature important to you?
Most of the time, editors don't want keyframes to move when slipping a clip in the Timeline.  This is because keyframes are almost always set relative to the Timeline itself and not to the contents of the clip.  After Effects understands this (when slipping a clip in AE, keyframes stay put!)  My proposed solution would accommodate all workflows, allowing keyframes to slip or stay put depending on the situation.  Please give users the power to decide if keyframes should slip or not!
PS. Adding this feature before the next big release in 2014 for Cloud users would be a great way to encourage more users to move to the Cloud.  I know that I, for one, would make the switch for this one feature alone!

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