Sloooowwwww text entry in InDesign CS5
I've got a truly bizarre behavior that is driving me crazy! About midway through a document, text editing becomes painfully slow. I can type a sentence and it takes several seconds for the cursor to catch up. This happens whether I edit in place, or type in Story Editor.
Here is where it gets very bizarre. In any text BEFORE this point in the document, text entry and editing is fast, clean, and efficient. The point in the document where the change from fast to slow takes place stays the same, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I DELETE SOME TEXT. In other words, I've found the precise paragraph where the slow typing starts. If I delete that paragraph, then the NEXT paragraph shifts up and becomes the start of slow editing. Paragraphs before and after this point are all styled with the same body paragraph style, so it has nothing to do with the style itself. In fact ANY style below the "magical point" in the document has very slow typing. Any style or paragraph above this point types and edits fine. It almost seems like this magical point happens after a certain number of characters in the document. If I delete text above this point, the magical point shifts further down the document text.
Thinking I had a corrupted file, I exported the entire file as IDML (InDesign Markup) and reimported it. I get THE SAME BEHAVIOR IN EXACTLY THE SAME SPOT. The file is about 11 pages long and consists of one story that runs through threaded text frames. There are about 5 images that have been anchored to text. (But not near the "magical point" where text editing becomes as slow as molasses.)
I've tried making new documents, changing styles, loading different master pages, deleting the images, deleting the master page, etc. and nothing affects this issue. And yet I can create a new document, fill it with a hundred pages of placeholder text and I don't get this behavior anywhere in the document.
Has anyone else experienced something similar?? It's MADDENING!!
This is definitely an issue in the Windows environment that has absolutely no impact in a Mac environment. I was just introduced to it, and I'm really scratching my head. I do most of my layout on a really nice Intel Mac using ID CS5, and I'm currently working on a huge project with multiple team members working on a variety of computers. I was unaware until yesterday that one of the team members who is working on a Windows 7 laptop was having problems making text edits in documents that work just fine on my Mac. There was a severe lag when typing. She could go get a coffee while waiting for one simple typed sentence to appear on the screen. We opened up system resources and everything is maxing out while text is being typed, CPU, memory, network. It's a real stumper. This is not a simple machine, it was purchased to be a graphic design computer and has really good specs, but just to make sure it wasn't the computer, I tried it on two other PCs. One is my laptop that I freelance on and the other is a fellow designer's machine that has absolutely amazing specs (actually better than my Mac), both running Windows 7. On all three computers I have the same typing lag, though I can reduce the lag some by turning off everything that saps ID performance (auto preflight, screen redraw, dynamic spelling, balance columns, etc.). The files are on a server, so I even tried copying them to the local harddrive and severing link and InCopy connections. I've tried turning off balance columns and still the lag. The lag is most prominent in a fairly complex table and I've noticed it is worse when editing text that is on a 10 percent black background.
I can provide a file to play with if anyone wants to see the behavior. I can reproduce it on any computer with a Windows environment (both CS5 and CS5.5). I would appreciate a fix either in the way my documents are created or for the app because I'm doing hundreds of these documents for the next couple years and this lag is a severe problem in our workflow.
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Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 7.0.0.355 (7000)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
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I did create a new user account (admin level) and InDesign works like a charm.
When I went back to the other account, plug-ins gone, I deleted the prefs and caches, restarted and still everything is crashing as before.
At least I am working on one account and I will contiue to troubleshoot on the other account. And at some point either the new account will crash or the old account will work and I will go from there.
Thanks for the info about Mac remembering info. Always trying to be helpful these Macs.
And thanks for getting at least into a workable space!!! I am supremely grateful! -
Anchoring objects to text in InDesign CS5.0
Hi,
I'm trying to convert a heavily styled book with lots of photos and charts to Kindle. When I export to Kindle, it's a mess. Is it possible to anchor objects to text in CS5? I know CS5.5 can do it, but I'm having a hard time figuring it out in CS5.
Any helpful hints for making this conversion as easy as possible ... and without knowing any HTML would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!I highly recommend Elizabeth Castro's ebook to learn the basics of creating EPUB files—"EPUB Straight to the Point"
Formatting ebooks - EPUB Straight to the Point
Here is how she suggests you do it in InDesign CS5:
Place the cursor in the flow of your book where you want to illustration to go (at the beginning of a paragraph).
Press Return to create a separate paragraph for the illustration
Apply an Illustration paragraph style. She suggests setting autoleading so the paragraph expands to the height of the illustration.
Choose File > Place to place the illustration in that paragraph.
If you need a caption, press return to create a new paragraph and apply the Caption style. -
Text flow to additional pages at end of document, how to set up in InDesign CS5
I've added additional pages to a document in InDesign CS5 -- but how do I set up my document so when text is supposed to get pushed to the additional pages the text flows from page to page on these extra added pages? Right now I've added additional pages to the end of my document and when the text from the original document gets pushed past the end it disappears and not continued on the additional pages.
Thanks,
JeffP Spier wrote:
Yeah, container may not be the best word to describe a book, which is why I put it in quotes, and I certainly didn't mean to imply that you can no longer open and edit the files outside the book. Doing that, however, means next time you open the book ID will complain and ask you to update things. No big deal, but if you open through the book panel it will save the changes through the book and that won't happen. No difference to the inidividual files.
Historically - as in *roff and other UNIX-based processing programs like xroff, nroff, etc - books that were published from multiple individual component files, were produced by the use of a "makefile." You'd need to create the makefile by typing the names of the component files in the book order, along withtheir specifications, such as starting page side, starting page number, etc. You'd save the makefile with a name to preserve all this information, then you'd run the "make" command-line command in which you'd name the makefile, and include arguments such as which printer, how many copies, even a job priority, to avoid unnecessarily hogging the network bandwidth and free the printer for higher-priority jobs. As GUI capable hardware and software progressed, command-line makefiles became GUI book files - still, basically lists of component files and processing instructions.
One important value of book files that don't contain component files is that different book files can control the processing of the same component files in different ways, as well as produce books that use some of the same files and some different files - for different audiences, different product sets, etc. Yes, opening a book file may warn that component files have changed - a good warning to the user to pay attention - and they offer a way to update the collection of component files so that the book file produces the desired result. Here's where some folks may be surprised when they find that sometimes a print or export dialog box, either retains or forgets the settings used for the previous run; the result may be printing multiple copies instead of one, printing to a different printer than expected, or exporting a PDF that's not suitable for the desired printer.
The short story is that while book processing lists that are separate from the component files offer flexibility and reusability, but they also require that the user pays attention.
Did I commingle Autoflow and Smart Text Reflow in some way? I didn't think so.
Not at all. I'm just extra-sensitive to my own experiences with not having taking pains to keep clear on the differences between these similar-sounding terms.
My point was that HOW your text was put into the file to begin with, coupled with how your settings for STR are configured, is going to control whether subsequent editing triggers reflow. It's possible to have STR enabled and not have it work because you've limited it to master text frames and you haven't actually used any. An understanding of how autoflow works when placing text is important to being able to troubleshoot why STR is not behaving as expected (not to mention why text frames may not be adjusting if you edit the master page).
One reason for the confusions that come from working with Smart Text Reflow is that there's no indication in the UI, that STR is enabled, and when it's enabled, there's no indication in the UI of which STR settings are in effect, except by seeing the behavior. Are pages added at the end or story, section, or document? You may see them added in the Pages panel, if it's open, on screen, and if the appropriate portion of the document is in view; you may see them added on screen if the appropriate portion of the document is on screen - the end of story, section, or document.
In InDesign's Help, Smart Text Reflow is covered in only a few paragraphs. As you noted, there's much more to it.
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices -
Text jumping around in InDesign CS5 attributed to Magic Mouse!
I am a long time user of Adobe software (beginning with PageMaker) and have been using InDesign CS5 since shortly after it came out.
Most of my work involves display ads and catalogues for sporting goods stores, so there is a 'ton' of image and text manipulation.
About 6 weeks ago I started having this problem with text and images jumping around. It was horrible!
Anyway, long story short…it was my 'new' Magic Mouse which I purchased the end of Sept. I went back to using my original wireless mouse and 'no more problems'!
I went through a very long, drawn out process to get to the bottom of the problem. Anyone experiencing this problem and using a Magic Mouse you might want to try going back to an older mouse.
Good Luck!Thanks but this has been a known problem for a long long time.
Bob -
Replace text with image using Applescript in InDesign CS5
Hi to everyone, i'm looking for some suggestions to resolve my problem.
I've to replace some strings with jpeg images stored on my pc
Here is the code to replace two strings with the new ones.
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS5"
set myDocument to active document
set myPage to page 1 of myDocument
set stringsToReplace to {"111", "222"}
repeat with iterator from 1 to (count stringsToReplace)
set find text preferences to nothing
set change text preferences to nothing
set myFoundItems to nothing
set element to item iterator of stringsToReplace
if element is "111" then
set find what of find text preferences to "111"
set change to of change text preferences to "ONE"
set myFoundItems to change text
display dialog ("Found : " & (count myFoundItems) & " occurences of " & element)
else if element is "222" then
set find what of find text preferences to "222"
set change to of change text preferences to "TWO"
set myFoundItems to change text
display dialog ("Found : " & (count myFoundItems) & " occurences of " & element)
end if
end repeat
set find text preferences to nothing
set change text preferences to nothing
end tell
Can you hel me?
Thanks in advance.Hello, I have a couple of questions for you… How come you have strings in text frames… Would you not be better off using labels for this…? ( thats how I would do this ). Off the top of my head I think you will need to remove any text content from the frame to be able to change it's content type… only then will you be able to place a graphic… How are you associating your strings with the required image files… Do you have this in some extenal file Excel or FMP.
Maybe you are looking for
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