Slow Boot problem with New K8N Neo4 Platinum HELP

Hello,
I just set up my new rig, the system specs are..
amd64 3500+
K8N Neo4 Platinum PCI-E (non SLI)
2x80gb SATA (insockets 5 and 6) Silicon
2x512 ram generic
BFG 6800 Ultra OC
antec 550 truepower
The entire install went well.. It zipped through windows98... But when it tired to Boot windows98.. it went really really slow.. The animation bar at the bottom was chugging.. like lagging.. and took well over 10 minutes to fully load..
I check RAM was not it.. re-connected.. was not it.. new SATA cables.. no idea any help would do.. getting impatient and tired =O must get it up tonight!

Don't know if you or many people have seen this it's appeared over the last few days K8N Neo4 Platinum - NOTE: NVIDIA nForce 3/4 Series board DO NOT support Windows® 98/ME
There are people running 98 but my own understanding was that 98 could only use a sata drive as a data drive & could not be installed on a sata drive. Where have you installed it ???
see Win 98SE IDE problem.... Has anyone worked it out yet?
luck

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Hello!
Got a strange problem.
gonna give u my specs for the pc first:
AMD64 3000+
2*512mb PC3200 Kingston Hyper X
MSI K8N Neo4 platinum
His x800xl
Seagate 80gb,IDE 3,5 ( currently Linux is installed on it)
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I've just put all the parts together. Turned on the PC, got into boot screen, pressed delete to enter bios, no problem here, change the first boot to: Cd rom. Beacuse I'm gonna install Xp on it. save and exit the bios, the post(?) screen shows up with sume info, and at the button i can choose: Press F1 to continue or press DEL to enter setup.
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Hello !!
Please give more information about your system specs.
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Grimster i agree totaly with jeanguy, you need around 25-30amps min on these boards, so try a mates psu.
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FastEddie,
Can you tell me what cooling options you are installing in your ASUS A8N mobo builds?
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Thank you for all the replies. Upgrading to the latest Nvidia IDE-drivers did not fix my problem. Moving to other SATA-ports did not help either. Upgrading the mobo's BIOS is not really an option (I'm using one version before the most recent and there isn't anything in the fixlist of the latest BIOS).
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Quote from: rogueUK on 31-July-06, 16:55:42
insego please use the SEARCH BUTTON
I did use the search function to find other people with similar problems. The reason I started a topic of my own was because of the text you get while joining:
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Do not hijack another persons topic. If you have a similar problem, start your own thread anyway.
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Sorry the Bad English

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